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Please no GOAT threads tomorrow..

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1dan1x

Chronicle has placed 1st or 2nd in following events:

Masters Berlin 2021 (1st)
Valorant Champions 2022 (2nd)
LOCK//IN 2023 (1st)
Masters Tokyo 2023 (1st)
Masters Toronto 2025 (2nd)
EWC 2025 (2nd) (discountable)
Valorant Champions 2025 (TBD)

along with multiple top4 finishes and multiple EMEA trophies.

#2
themaniel
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But aspas kill

#3
SL_Ren
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So we omitting Shanghai? Reyjkavik? Copenhagen? Champs 2024 and 2023 and 2021?

1 champs trophy = 2 masters

Whoever has more champs is certainly the better player, specially if done on different teams

With that being said, its up for grab from anyone. So hope for the best

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whyMeHereWTF
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So if NRG win, you think that Ethan is the GOAT?

#4
jawn
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valorant draymond green

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daboi
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valorant robert horry

#5
SamNuho
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Individual skill and Winning trophies is two different things.

As many already argued. Aspas is the best player of all time but the GOAT is Chronicle.

You can't be the GOAT with 1 trophy.

Consistently putting numbers and placing top 2-3 in almost every event is GOAT worthy.

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JonahPork
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Name 2 events where chronicle was the best on the team

#7
SamNuho
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Was Aspas the best player in Champs 2022? His only trophy and someone else carried

#9
JonahPork
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Chronicle has been carried for all 3 of his event wins, it really doesn’t make a difference. What separates them is their individual play in all the events they didn’t win

#11
1dan1x
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chron carried gambit in masters final
chron never had a 0.53 rating

#13
JonahPork
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It’s funny cuz the only time chron was on a mid team he looked like an average EMEA player at best (M3C). Chron has already proven he’s not capable of elevating a bad team into contention

#34
Itsover
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Yeah and he also was playing with no org, no coach and on 50+ ping like rest of his teammates, sybau.

#35
JonahPork
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All these excuses but nats was just fine

#36
Itsover
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they were 0.02 from qualifying vs g2 and also beat shitquid in upper in champs quals, 50+ ping vs 10, if quals were on lan like now they would have qualed to all 3 tournaments.

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SamNuho
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Individual play is only great if it translates to wins and top placings. Chronicle has been instrumental in every tournament he won with Gambit and Fnatic. He was also Champs MVP if Gambit beat Acend

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JonahPork
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Chron’s play translates to wins bc he has elite teammates. The only time he didn’t have elite teammates was on M3C and he played like an average player at best

#23
1dan1x
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aspas has 1 trophy from 3 years ago.
elevating a team to lose is not enough.
Do not cope please. Trophies matter. Performance matters.

#26
JonahPork
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I agree that trophies matter, they just aren’t that significant if you aren’t the best player on the team

#28
1dan1x
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name the best player on fnatic right now

#29
JonahPork
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kaajak

#31
1dan1x
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alright for me I value how the whole team sets up kaajak and alfajer to make entry fraggs - I would say the most valuable players on fnatic are chronicle and alfajer

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1dan1x
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Berlin
Berlin (tied with nAts)
Champs 25 (tied with kaajak)

#10
JonahPork
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nAts was better at Berlin and kaajak is better this event. Using this tied gimmick doesn’t help chronicle’s case, it’s just cope

#12
1dan1x
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kaajak has the same rating while playing a role supposed to make flashy plays and have a lot of kills (like aspas)
kills doesnt equal peformance. Chron clears

#15
JonahPork
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Chronicle has the easiest role on the team lmao

#16
SamNuho
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You are some silver and I see you joblessly yapping on the discord too. Bum.

#18
JonahPork
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I’m immortal but cool story man

#20
SamNuho
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Discord mod soon

#22
JonahPork
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Say something of substance

#24
SamNuho
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You are an npc. There is no point in talking substance

#32
Anguibok
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The fact you say 2 to avoid an event he won and won MVP is mental

#19
LugiaVLR
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Champs 23 - 4th
Champs 24 - 5-6th

#21
PP12123213123
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DANI CAVAJAL

#30
akaFelipee
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Aspas --> Best performance
Chronicle --> Most trophies
Ethan --> Ethan

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