I like Kess
But should 100t upgrade
Positive
-perfect role fill for them, senti/flex
Negative
-could get a really good anchor/shooter
*yes zikz is a big problem I’m mostly asking about Kess
Kess?
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Cryo (senti)
Asuna (flex main possible duelist)
Zander (smokes/igl)
Reduxx(main duelist)
Eeiu? Maybe
same shit happened to leaf and meteor btw, 2 of the very best senti in the world
my point is; leaf was a cracked but passive jett player and an occasional chamber player back in the days and it was the same with meteor. Cryo is in the exact same spot except he hasn't been pushed to roleswap yet. Unless he gets his yoru to a very high level quickly he will have to role swap eventualy imo. See how it is the same shit with Yay (except eg don't have a jett/yoru player so he is still on jett)
The large majority of the jett+chamber players who didn't become top tier raze/neons will have to become senti imo
i do think it would be good i just think no one would push him. he has been on a weird role spot for far too long to nobody ever consider that before
it works for now because Asuna's agent pool fits pretty well in the current meta, but to me it is very obvious that he (cryo) isn't comfortable with the double duelist style that 100t is playing that pushes him to play fast aggro on defense
His Yoru IS at a high level, but yeah he can go into a senti-flex like 2024 meteor did on split and breeze
when we see cryo it also feels like hes more of a passive player and would fit on senti really well
Asuna is a good player but there is so much duelist talent out there, and you wanna keep him? lmao
You think Asuna is the problem on the team when he’s the only reason the team is even functional.
He plays hyper aggressive for a team full of passive players, fills the gaps in all the role issues the team has and can quite literally play any agent you put him on. He mid rounds with eeiu, he has good comms and calls, and he’s performing well on a role that he himself doesn’t consider his best.
Dropping Asuna is legit the most brain dead move the org can do, you either drop Cryo for a full time duelist and move Asuna to secondary duelist/flex initiator or you drop kess and make Cryo senti then pick up a full time duelist. Dropping Asuna legit does nothing and you’ll see how much worse the team becomes.
The only other change they need to do is potentially a head coach change, that is all.
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I never said Asuna is the "problem" he is just a mechanically limited player and plays in the most mechanically demanding role in valorant. He is by FAR the worst duelist in NA other than Icy (who I also advocate to be dropped)
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Asuna is not the only agressive player in Valorant, there are plenty of hungry tier 2 players with the drive to succeed and mechanics to back it up. Replace Asuna with OXY for example, this is an unequivocal upgrade and OXY does the exact same thing Asuna does but is far more skilled
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Asuna cant play any role you put him on, he only plays initiator and duelist and has looked putrid every time he has tried to branch out (Omen, harbor in RBHG 2 years ago)
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Asuna has had 5 years to deliver for 100T yet has been apart of disappointment after disappointment for half a decade at this point. He isnt the sole reason why 100T fail, and there have been things out of his control that have impacted the team which have hindered them, BUT at some point there comes a time where you need to deliver and frankly, Asuna has had more than enough lifelines, more than enough rebuilds to deliver yet he just... hasnt. Something clearly isnt working between him and 100T to be the cream of the crop and its time for a fresh start for both parties.
It isnt 2021 anymore, Asuna is no longer an upcoming rookie with the sky as the limit. He is a known quantity, and it is obvious to anyone who doesnt have rose-tinted glasses that he doesnt elevate 100T into that upper echelon where the team SHOULD be
This is why I said you have no idea what you’re talking about. Because you still have the idea in your head that Asuna is meant to be a duelist player when he’s simply not. He shouldn’t be on duelist. And neither is he by far the worst duelist in na besides icy. Look at jawgemo, he is quite literally the same player as Asuna with identical mechanics, he just happens to have a better supporting cast so no one says shit about him.
You don’t understand the value he brings to the team because you don’t know what he’s capable of. You’ve seen what he does on duelist and advocate for an upgrade when that’s not his main role.
And yes, Asuna CAN play any agent you put him on. He has NOT looked putrid by any sense of the word. Omen on icebox is legit terrorist behavior that I see teams try every year only to fail, I don’t count this. He looked decent on it anyways, nothing special.
The idea of “5 years no results” literally means nothing. This is a team game not a solo game. Every single one of his ex teammates has praised him, his vocals and his game IQ. Why do you people insist on going against it? He has shown what he’s capable of, literally anytime you put him on an agent that requires utility usage, you can see how good he is at it. And he is absolutely mechanically gifted, you’re just convinced he isn’t because he’s on a role that he’s not meant to be on.
And one more thing, something no one brings attention to is the fact that Asuna simply doesn’t have a good supporting cast when he’s on duelist. Not because his teammates are bad, but rather because they don’t support him the way, for example, G2 support jaw.
If anything, Cryo has had too many chances and has shown nothing for it. Is he a good player? Mechanically, yeah. But he quite literally brings nothing else. He has an awful agent pool, a play style far too passive for the roles he does play, and he can’t play the role of star player that he was originally signed for.
I can see why someone would be frustrated with Asuna as a player but you have to look at everything he does and understand that without him this team would literally be dogshit.
"Jawgemo has identical mechanics to Asuna" you are an all time ragebaiter bro, you got me fair and square tbf
What a nice way to say you’ve got no rebuttal. At least try to argue against it, because since you love stats so much; the stats literally back my claim.
Thanks for proving my point that you have no idea what you’re talking about, good day.
you might actually be legitimately braindead if you think assuna should stay on the team after his whole shit performance thorughout his time on the team. 100t being shit all these years has a common player...
if you've got nothing but insults to offer and no way to refute a single point i made besides "he's been here so long!!!" then you might as well just not type anything and stay quiet.
if "hes been here so long" is the only thing you could grab from the point ive made youre pretty slow lol cause rn cryo is the only reason 100 bots can shoot back to an extent if cryo leaves that team its wraps for you guys. asuna has been there for idk even know how long and hes never been the best player stats wise ever definition of mid and even much below mid sometimes. He should be dropped asap and someone else should be brought in. I used to be an Asuna fan as well but hes just too ass. Its only stage 2 that he started shooting his gun to an extent but every other season hes just been dogshit. Very trash and inconsistent player
oh so you're just stupid. got it. you either didn't read a single thing i sent or don't have the brainpower to understand any of it. i literally gave like 50 paragraphs worth of points signifying his importance on the team but oh well. average vlr user cares about nothing but stats, keep doing that.
you're also one of those who thinks cryo is the best player on the team so, this debate was never worth having the first place. fyi 90% of his kills are eco frags, if you know what that even means.
this argument/debate was fun but now we're just going in circles because people don't look past stats so i'll take my leave. good day.
bro its like our fanbase has stockholm syndrome, I really do think Asuna is a good player but he is underwhelming in comparison to other duelist players.
He has a future as an initiator player but 100T already has eeiu and Kess who is on an off role
I dont get how they can watch guys like Sato and Kaajak come in as rookies and be so exciting and think to themselves "lets stick with Asuna"
I have a bad feeling if Zikz is still around he'll push the org to trial Demon1 on Senti
why would they not at least trial him tho, like surely every NA team looking for a new player is gonna trial him
I just don't see Cryo/Eeiu/Demon1 working since they are all pretty passive. Cryo has grown more aggro but I’m still not sure the fit makes sense, it would put even more pressure on Asuna to make space.
you know that 2023 EG trialed demon1 on senti right? I remember him talking about it with jawgemo. more specifically about his cypher OP plays during trials
It has nothing to do with him playing senti it's the fact he doesn't fit with most of their members look at #37
rossy/okeanos (flex)
cryo (senti)
eeiu (scan)
jerrwin/reduxx (duelist)
zander (smokes/igl)
if you do want to keep kess he should replace eeiu on scan
I think it's time to explore the Cryo Senti option. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but if he can look even somewhat like Leaf/Meteor on the new role, it could be legit worth it.
He is an insane Jett, but I have always thought that it is easier to find a cracked duelist player than any other role in T2. And right now 100T need to take a chance on somebody hoping that they'll be the next X-Factor.
If that's not the direction that they go, I think 100T management could go in like 5 different directions so there's no point speculating on an alternative now.
He has chamber experience / lurking experience back in the XSET days as well so it could be an option. Though I feel like that'll hold back how much potentially he could really have, as talented as he is.
Kinda reminded me of N4rrate when SEN tried him on sentinel. He has the aim and talent, like cryo to be able to lurk but it all depends on comfortability.
100T should lean into chamber comps more imo, that’s the best case scenario with their current roster
I'd love to see him on full time senti but if you do this I think you need to explore replacing Asuna so you can get someone who can play all duelists at a high level, top choice would be Sato but I highly doubt that's possible. That's not a slight against Asuna but if you put Cryo on Senti you need someone who can put up numbers on duelist on consistently. I rate Asuna pretty high but if an upgrade is available I think you have to explore it.
No in my head it wouldn’t be Asuna playing duelist, 100T would pick up a duelist and Asuna would be flexing. So essentially -Kess, +Duelist.
But honestly, I think we gotta see how playoffs goes, if 100T bomb out, I think we could see as many as 3 people leaving this team.
I can get on board with that. The only issue is Asuna's 2nd best role is Flash ini, and that currently isn't the meta. Though I did enjoy his fade back in 2022, it obviously isn’t an option with eeiu on the roster.
i used to think cryo should play sentinel but i think he's found his role on the yoru since he can get an op in his hands. maybe put asuna on flex/flash init like before and get a cracked duelist
Why flex Cryo when we can flex Kess? When Cryo played Sentinel, 100T lost to Trust in Plug. We should get rid of Cryo first before we get rid of Kess.
If 100T keep cryo they 1000000% are keeping him on duelist. Cryo ain't playing no cypher lmao, there's a reason why they only had Cryo on Senti for 1 off season game. Wish I could watch the VOD to see why but unfortunately the VOD is gone.
Update: VOD is on sliggy's channel, and it can be seen why Cryo doesn't play Senti. He is too unconfortable on the Senti role especially on attack side lurks (See 100T vs plug sunset) where his timings were always way too off and led to himself getting picked off. Similar timing issues also on defense, too passive on defense where he had too little info as a consequence of being in a bad position. If you need a sentinel I don't know why you wouldn't just put Kess on sentinel.
It’s impressive how much they’re determined to keep but fuck it vibes>trophies anyway
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