Valorant queue system

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KiwiJuice

Cant we adopt something like overwatch or league where you queue selecting the role you wanna play.
Initiator
Sentinel
Controller
Duelist
Flex
That way duelist players get what they deserve and the rest gets to play and I don't run into r*tard sage/Chamber Instalock

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Fal

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well the tradeoff is queue times get longer, and you'll still get inters and n4rrated instalockers either way

#3

KiwiJuice

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Basically you're telling me to give up and uninstall

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w1atrak

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Yes

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Jayde

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U should also do that

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Jayde

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The thing abt ranked is team comps, that kinda ruins it

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KiwiJuice

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Jett reyna clove get picked every game anyway. What u talking about team comps

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Jayde

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Sometimes its an additional yoru😃

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BigJuicyyyy

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That madrid 2024 prx split comp felt like a normal ranked comp

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morgue

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how would u dictate how many of each role are on a team. some maps favour double controller/ double duelist / double senti

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KiwiJuice

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that's what flex/fill role is for, which I literally put in my post

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morgue

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ok imagine this. people could just lock 'flex' for faster queue times since its a role probably not that many people pic, and then just instalock those same duelists anyway

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KiwiJuice

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it would be fine cause you still have max 2 duelists anyway

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Anguibok

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Flex would probably be the higher queuetime anyway since you can pick anything, you are more free, even more queue time than duelist

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Anguibok

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How do you play 0-sentinel comp that are popular on a lot of maps ?

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KiwiJuice

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make viper into sentinel

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Anguibok

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What about Astra comp that where also popular on 2nd pick ? Harbor and Omen played instead of a duelist on Icebox ?

Wouldn't be unfair that Viper would be the only agent put in 2 categories ?

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KiwiJuice

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you're talking about vct comps, I'm just talking about competitive.

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Anguibok

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Of, because if you dont allow some comp in soloQ it would be logical o not allow them in VCT

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Anguibok

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About your proposition, that would make queue time WAY too long even for the low asked roles (Since if you play smokes you may wait long before having your init and your sentinel), and let's be honest people would tag duel-flex and play duel everytime (Double duelist on every games), Breach and Kayo pickrate would instantely drop to 0 (Since you NEED a reveal in your team). Another problem of your proposition is that it would make a lot of meta comp unplayable since 0 sentinel composition are really popular on some maps. (Split for exemple)

I have some friend that think it could be sane for the game to consider to have a role queue with only 2 roles : 2 duelist, and 3 "Other", and I dont think that's that stupid, people like duelist, and even if proplay would go 2 duelist, it may reduce the amount of utility that people complain about, make the game more dynamic, more fun to watch, and since you can do everything with the 3 other player, the diversity is not that impacted.

My wet dream is the rework of Sentinel to make them more initiator-esque and go full 2-2-2 :

Sentinel are not popular, and not fun to play against, people complain about the lack of skill of playing Tejo and just rely on util, but it's even more true with every trap sentinels in defense.
By going 6 player and 3 roles, you reduce queue time (Especially since you have now in every team 2 duelist, and the pool of player to make a team are less divided)
Since passive vision is dead, you need one people more to cover the lane the passive vision was previously covering
They are hard to balance, either they are bad ( 2024 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrMksWF43n8 ), or they are too oppressive.