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#1
Mdkns

Just because 100thieves started well doesn’t mean they’re going to continue moving upwards. Stop using this logic it’s so flawed.

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sheahhhh
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u rly think theyre not gonna qual 2nd rnd

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GLN321
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sheahhhh [#2]

u rly think theyre not gonna qual 2nd rnd

it's not a given either really. there's a world where 4 out of sen, lg/v1, ghost, knights, geng qualify ahead of them. Sure they beat some of these, but they were close matches and teams will now play around their good maps better

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Yicko
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i mean its not guaranteed but look at guard. looked decent w a new roster and a good coach during open quals. destroyed group stages and qualified to iceland. not saying its gonna happen for 100t, but the logic isnt as flawed as u think

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GiltDougnut
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I mean a 3 week old team was 1 round away from qualing, multiple times, chances are they improve for next week

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Zaynio
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GiltDougnut [#5]

I mean a 3 week old team was 1 round away from qualing, multiple times, chances are they improve for next week

Same argument applies for TSM tho.

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GLN321 [#3]

it's not a given either really. there's a world where 4 out of sen, lg/v1, ghost, knights, geng qualify ahead of them. Sure they beat some of these, but they were close matches and teams will now play around their good maps better

Geng diffs I agree

#8
StormX
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either way they improved a lot and close to qualify

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_RAT_
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Roster is mid, don't know why they are rolling through mid players, putting them on 10 day contracts. Team will never be good again if they don't stick with a roster, however their current roster looks trash. They should qual, but don't think they will compete at all with top 5 NA.

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Omega-___
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Zaynio [#6]

Same argument applies for TSM tho.

How is TSM a three week old roster what???

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ItsMeDio
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Zaynio [#6]

Same argument applies for TSM tho.

???
Tsm is literally grinding a lot of Mickey mouse tournament
So idks

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Zaynio
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ItsMeDio [#11]

???
Tsm is literally grinding a lot of Mickey mouse tournament
So idks

The inclusion of gMd and Seven occurred roughly at the same time of 100t's restructuring.

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1cameh
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Zaynio [#12]

The inclusion of gMd and Seven occurred roughly at the same time of 100t's restructuring.

what is your point? TSM already qualified

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GiltDougnut
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Zaynio [#12]

The inclusion of gMd and Seven occurred roughly at the same time of 100t's restructuring.

yeah but there's a huge difference here. Seven was essentially a 1 for 1 trade with Wardell (oping chamber for oping chamber/jett on some maps), so the main change was switching gmd for aleko, so they only had 1-2 role switches (I don't think Rossy played Sova before), while 100t is a completely new team, and even their two remaining players switched roles completely, and their entire coaching staff changed too. Tsm did do an incredible job, and I love the changes they've made. I think that 100t has a good chance of making the quals next week. If they don't, they should def keep this team and come back insanely strong next year.

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GLN321 [#3]

it's not a given either really. there's a world where 4 out of sen, lg/v1, ghost, knights, geng qualify ahead of them. Sure they beat some of these, but they were close matches and teams will now play around their good maps better

ghost?? They lost to Team Basilisk and it wasn't even close I think EG, DZ, NYFU or even T1 have better chances

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_RAT_ [#9]

Roster is mid, don't know why they are rolling through mid players, putting them on 10 day contracts. Team will never be good again if they don't stick with a roster, however their current roster looks trash. They should qual, but don't think they will compete at all with top 5 NA.

why do you think their roster is trash lmao

#17
Zaynio
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GiltDougnut [#14]

yeah but there's a huge difference here. Seven was essentially a 1 for 1 trade with Wardell (oping chamber for oping chamber/jett on some maps), so the main change was switching gmd for aleko, so they only had 1-2 role switches (I don't think Rossy played Sova before), while 100t is a completely new team, and even their two remaining players switched roles completely, and their entire coaching staff changed too. Tsm did do an incredible job, and I love the changes they've made. I think that 100t has a good chance of making the quals next week. If they don't, they should def keep this team and come back insanely strong next year.

I can understand that. I was just saying that TSM had similar (although smaller) hurdles to overcome. I wouldn't doubt that 100T will improve within the week to qualify either way.

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Dokka
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They aren't just gonna stop improving. It is not crazy to think that if a team is improving they will continue that trend, since there is no indicator they are slowing down.

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Heineck
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_RAT_ [#9]

Roster is mid, don't know why they are rolling through mid players, putting them on 10 day contracts. Team will never be good again if they don't stick with a roster, however their current roster looks trash. They should qual, but don't think they will compete at all with top 5 NA.

The current roster looks trash? Do you even know the players?

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Dokka
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_RAT_ [#9]

Roster is mid, don't know why they are rolling through mid players, putting them on 10 day contracts. Team will never be good again if they don't stick with a roster, however their current roster looks trash. They should qual, but don't think they will compete at all with top 5 NA.

If they are top 10 they are not trash lmao

#21
zzzzzzzzz
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It's way better than doing bad so Idk what's your point

#22
Heineck
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they have been playing together for 3 or 4 weeks max, of course they're still gonna improve a lot, that's not a stupid argument at all

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andrewdamf
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gweees [#15]

ghost?? They lost to Team Basilisk and it wasn't even close I think EG, DZ, NYFU or even T1 have better chances

because they got their fucking house robbed and didnt sleep.
How about their mental?
How about how many time they spent talking to the police and shit?
How about the fear they might have that this could happen again

#24
TacoTreyKirby
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Heineck [#19]

The current roster looks trash? Do you even know the players?

How many of The Guard's players did you know before they came onto the scene? You don't have to have big named players for success. If you grind with a good coaching staff then you can become just as good if not better in the case of The Guard.

#25
Strafe7
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Optic won masters but now they're going to go out last in Challengers!

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_RAT_
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Dokka [#20]

If they are top 10 they are not trash lmao

not top 10

#27
gweees
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andrewdamf [#23]

because they got their fucking house robbed and didnt sleep.
How about their mental?
How about how many time they spent talking to the police and shit?
How about the fear they might have that this could happen again

I aint know any of that

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TacoTreyKirby [#24]

How many of The Guard's players did you know before they came onto the scene? You don't have to have big named players for success. If you grind with a good coaching staff then you can become just as good if not better in the case of The Guard.

????????

#29
UnEstoppable
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Zaynio [#12]

The inclusion of gMd and Seven occurred roughly at the same time of 100t's restructuring.

2 new players is not the same as 4 new players

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