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Team Liquids problem rn in my unqualified opinion

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#1
Dokka

I'm not super qualified to talk about this but, I've watched the last few Liquid games a trend of issues has shown itself.

To me they are trying to hard to create something new, do a unique strategy to shock the opponent, the strange bit is that the aim of the players is undeniably great l1nk, soulcas, scream are all extraordinary but they put themselves in situations where that aim rarely shines. For example in that last round, after they beat G2 in their buy-up. G2 were on weaker weapons, it was very obviously a prime example for TL to get back into the game. The plan is straightforward for these rounds, hit a site together, plant, and don't give upgraded pistols and marshals a chance for picks. That doesn't work when scream jumps onto the boxes in range of three different angles and jammpi just solo pushes mid with the strongest gun in the round. In a different situation, its also odd when you give an Omen an operator when it honestly has nothing to really enable it. A series of strange decisions and agent picks.

TLDR: They try to hard to be create new strategies and overthink rounds, thus put players in bad situations where their fantastic raw aim, does not matter.

I'm no coach but I think playing standard, but I think playing default valorant could let the aim of the players shine and just be better for them.

Despite this, I still think and hope Liquid can beat G2

I really really like these players and TL in general, I wanna see them succeed but I think its undeniable that they have to change something in order to beat top tier teams

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verse
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their problem is that they have too many UK players + unqualified IGL

#3
Fluffyy
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tldr?

#4
simza
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i only read this because of the first sentence lol

#5
Whizzpoppers23
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Yes

#6
ait8k
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they've always did the "creating something new to shock the opponent" . also g2 played really good, even gambit had a hard time against that comp yesterday.

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Issax28
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Tldr : they are trash

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valvenq
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You have to consider that Liquid in itself is a state of matter. They have a definite volume, but they don't have a definite shape. So their starts rn include adapting to their opponents mid-game, like they are fluid.

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blissout11
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with nivera on chamber they dont really have a great viper

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Dokka
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ait8k [#6]

they've always did the "creating something new to shock the opponent" . also g2 played really good, even gambit had a hard time against that comp yesterday.

Im not trying to take away from G2s victory at all, they played really well. It was just a good example to illustrate problems shown in games against M3C and FPX

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Ichinose
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srry bro didnt read but n1

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valvenq [#8]

You have to consider that Liquid in itself is a state of matter. They have a definite volume, but they don't have a definite shape. So their starts rn include adapting to their opponents mid-game, like they are fluid.

Seems like you spent a lot of hrs studying science

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Dokka
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Ichinose [#11]

srry bro didnt read but n1

fair enough

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valvenq
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Rebellion2408 [#12]

Seems like you spent a lot of hrs studying science

Liquid has aim but no brain. Reasoning being: their brains are liquid mush. No solid brain cells between the players...

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Dokka [#10]

Im not trying to take away from G2s victory at all, they played really well. It was just a good example to illustrate problems shown in games against M3C and FPX

yeah 100%

#16
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valvenq [#14]

Liquid has aim but no brain. Reasoning being: their brains are liquid mush. No solid brain cells between the players...

I agree

#17
onlyfax
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Imo they were overthinking rounds too much. Hopefully they can bounce back

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Dokka
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onlyfax [#17]

Imo they were overthinking rounds too much. Hopefully they can bounce back

Thats what im trying say yea

#19
JettEnjoyer
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Liquid has simple solutions:

They already have decent awper Nivera and decent fragger ScreaM, clutcher + lurker L1nk, flexer soulcas (most mediocre in this list except the finnish one) and bot jamppi.

They need s tier IGL. First on drop for IGL slot is jamppi.

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