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Just look at this thread for context and let me know if u agree or disagree
Do you think role players exist or not?
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I mean not everyone can drop 20 kills every map but at the same time you gotta at least look competent.
Its not about dropping 20 kills a map, a team with 5 good players will rotate through their bottom fraggers instead of having the same shitcan at the bottom every game, will have players who are consistently positive, and putting up 1+ vlr rating almost every series.
The way you're thinking of "role player" is just someone not fragging, which like yeah, those aren't role players, they're just bad. But there are for sure role players in vct. DaviH and Darker are the ones that come to mind. Like you'll very rarely see them top frag a series cause they're primarily using their util to set up their star players to get kills.
i understand the way you are explaining a role player, i just disagree with that. a player like trent, brawk, or riens does much of the same, but they are not considered role players despite setting up their teams heavily. the only difference is pretty much mechs and game sense. darker doesn't top frag bc he doesn't have a clutch bone in his body, i mean he is really dreadful in the clutch. davih a bit less so, he just has bad mechs
You can be a star player on a supportive role though, like trent/brawk/riens. I'm just confused at what you'd call someone like DaviH specifically, who has solid mechanics but spends most of his time using his util to set up his cracked out teammates to get kills. I'd personally call him a role player because he plays his role within the team's system well but isn't a star.
i'd just call him an ok player. he's not a star, and the concept of a "role player" doesn't exist. he isn't making sacrifices
I mean sure, I guess. I think there's still a distinction for an ok player who meaningfully contributes to a winning system as opposed to one who doesn't. This is just a debate over your semantic definition of "role player" so whatever, I agree.
team of 4 "role players" and zerona and they just suck bc no such thing as a role player lmao
There are superstars and there are good players who like be more on the suportive side of that superstar player
atleast thats my take a bad player consistenty puts bad Numbers because hes bad “role players” get outshined by their superstar players
so who's an example of a player of a good player who's more supportive and isn't a superstar in ur opinion
idk PROFEK? but you get my initial idea
idk bro, profek's numbers were relatively the same on BBL despite playing with significantly less star power. imo if anything, he's a great example of my point. i get what ur point is, i think that kind of player just doesn't exist
role players do NOT exist in a game where everyone is given a equal opportunity unlike sports there is only one ball that can be possessed at a time
u cant be a role player in val
why would i take someone whos only really good at throwing darts when i can get someone good at throwing darts and shooting lmao
is this another dig at jawgemo again
Role players do exist. Imagine you are in a same team with Primmie, you already know you are a role player because you know who the main man is. Theres nothing wrong with that tho
i mean yes role players do exist because they exist in the roster to set up superstars that should be the heavy fraggers
this does not, however, exempt them from getting shit on, if they can’t pull their weight then they will be replaced
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