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jett and raze are fine and balanced
neon feels slower but still usable
phoenix is in a great state
some teams still run waylay in niche comps

how does this change before/for champs? changing anything now just feels wrong to me but i feel like rito is gonna screw this up somehow

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I hate phnx he's boring and there's no fun watching him he's fun to play but he's not fun to watch Yoru is the only one that was fun to watch

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Punish3rlp [#2]

I hate phnx he's boring and there's no fun watching him he's fun to play but he's not fun to watch Yoru is the only one that was fun to watch

fr man yoru made the game interesting, it required high level of timing and awareness, there were so much tech

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Punish3rlp [#2]

I hate phnx he's boring and there's no fun watching him he's fun to play but he's not fun to watch Yoru is the only one that was fun to watch

Oh noo!! my team cant abuse yoRu anymore

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Punish3rlp [#2]

I hate phnx he's boring and there's no fun watching him he's fun to play but he's not fun to watch Yoru is the only one that was fun to watch

agreed on this, yoru is the best thing happened to val and they killed it, actually stupid

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sh1lll [#4]

Oh noo!! my team cant abuse yoRu anymore

he is right btw

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I have a feeling riot does nothing since patch 13.00 and wait till post champs

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sh1lll
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FNSaimcoach9 [#6]

he is right btw

My ass he's right Yoru meta is unfortunately overrated yes he was fun up until every game it was yoru yoru yoru it gets to a point

Champs 25 although was primarily a yoru meta, it was the perfect meta. every agent could be played andthats infinitely more invaluable > YoRu spam

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lowkey i think we need a phoenix ult nerf. make it one extra point cuz his flashes are too op alr

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sh1lll [#8]

My ass he's right Yoru meta is unfortunately overrated yes he was fun up until every game it was yoru yoru yoru it gets to a point

Champs 25 although was primarily a yoru meta, it was the perfect meta. every agent could be played andthats infinitely more invaluable > YoRu spam

Honestly if riot just nerfed tps to 15s yoru would've been fine

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mondely [#9]

lowkey i think we need a phoenix ult nerf. make it one extra point cuz his flashes are too op alr

perfect nerfs are wall 8s -> 6s and ult -> 7 /8 points

but the nerfs will be overkill and this will be the last time we ever see phx played gg

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sh1lll [#11]

perfect nerfs are wall 8s -> 6s and ult -> 7 /8 points

but the nerfs will be overkill and this will be the last time we ever see phx played gg

Honestly just remove a flash and leave ult as it is fuck the haters

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sh1lll [#11]

perfect nerfs are wall 8s -> 6s and ult -> 7 /8 points

but the nerfs will be overkill and this will be the last time we ever see phx played gg

finally less phoenix in rank and the meta favors prx.

but surely rito learned their lesson and won’t go overkill right? if they gut his flashes, it is over for him

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#10]

Honestly if riot just nerfed tps to 15s yoru would've been fine

remind me what are they again

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#12]

Honestly just remove a flash and leave ult as it is fuck the haters

nahh even tho i abuse phx and 100t abuse phx, even i cant look into ur eyes and say that ult is fair for 6 orbs

plus 2 flashes are essential to phx

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sh1lll [#14]

remind me what are they again

Nvm i should've bee clearer
From prime 202t yoru they should've just done the 15s tp nerf and not the flash nerf on top and yoru would be fine

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sh1lll
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mondely [#13]

finally less phoenix in rank and the meta favors prx.

but surely rito learned their lesson and won’t go overkill right? if they gut his flashes, it is over for him

nope they love overbuffing and overnerfing agents. his flashes are going to end up being the harshest nerf somehow and while they're at it somehow buff the molly or somehting sutpid

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sh1lll [#15]

nahh even tho i abuse phx and 100t abuse phx, even i cant look into ur eyes and say that ult is fair for 6 orbs

plus 2 flashes are essential to phx

Its a 2 kill regen which is my logic
Mayb make it a 1 kill regen for balance
And as for the ult go to 7 orbs

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#18]

Its a 2 kill regen which is my logic
Mayb make it a 1 kill regen for balance
And as for the ult go to 7 orbs

1 flash 1 kill regen is probably going to be way more cancerous just imagine. flash -> 1 kill -> flash -> 1 kill -> flash -> 1 kill -> flash -> 1 kill

if anything they remove the regen or remove 1 flash realisticallh

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