I feel like they just keep nerfing the core parts of what makes the agents fun, neon's movement speed, raze satchels, yoru's tp, omen blind, etc.. I joined in 2023 and the agents abilities that gave them an identity was what made me love this game, and seeing them get destroyed by nerfs just for more "gun fights" is just making the game less fun and loses its identity, they limit your creativity for outplays and makes the game more aim reliant and makes it more predictable. I just hope they change how they approach nerfs so it makes it more fun for casual players.
I'm curious what your guys thoughts about this issue.
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I think it's ok to nerf her but her slide having 100% accuracy was the problem not her movement speed, because you just need to shoot her once to slow her down. They could've just reverted back to old neon where her slide is less reliant but ik riot doesn't like reverting changes so its just sad.
this might be the worst take possible, her speed in the air was 100% the problem and was literally meta warping and NEEDED to be nerfed
idk for me it was easier to kill her while jumping around rather than sliding and one shotting me
fr she was literally a human drone with a insta stun and crazy slide i think making it so u get no speed after a kill is crazy but the jumping is crazy broken
I play in 5 stacks so I some of the utility combos and certain agents feels like Theres nothing you can do like when I see cypher omen waylay neon phoneix I just want to ff
yes yes I agree with your statement (neon was annoying tho)
I'm playing this game for the abilities I don't mind the occasional ult spam mess every few rounds or some util here and there, this isn't CS, stop watering down abilities
If you care so much about gunplay then maybe try to fix the abhorrent map design with paper walls and shit
yea but her slide was the annoying part not the movement speed so why not nerf that with it not being 100% accurate again and make her shotgun pullout time as long as OP
The movement speed is what made her a hard to hit target even for pros, which just made her an easy entry that could help everyone else scale behind her and basically get a guaranteed trade
I assume that would be the reason for it
significant fuel nerf + slide nerf would have solved every single problem with neon in pro play while keeping her playable for the avg player
I can't be certain but I think slide nerf would've hurt neon far more than the air speed nerf, cause even now I think she has some use but if you consider how Riot nerfs agents, they would probably kill that ability and basically end Neon entirely
slide distance reduction or minor slide speed nerf is pretty acceptable imo, I don't see how that would be unplayble
you see John Riot would overdo it that's what I'm worried about
Basically like Yoru
yea i get your point, ig im just thinking of personal experience. thanks for the insight
fr, just nerf the slide speed in isolation instead of the fun movement
99 percent of neon cheese kills are with the slide + shotgun
I think it's time they introduce agent bans. This way they don't always have to nerf shit. But agent bans would generally revive the game for at least 1 year.
I think a safe start is each team can ban 2 agents that aren't the same role. they can work that out and adjust it later.
i feel like they don't have enough agents for 2 agent bans but it's not a bad idea i think since it makes the team have more variety in agent selections
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