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#1
Acethyr

this is the first time ive seen a character be "meta" and felt like the character is just perfectly balanced
he needs no buffs or nerfs
the circumstance just favors him

#2
asunaluvr
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i agree
common w acethyr

#3
Lordsalih
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nah 6 ult orbs is not enough, but ye very balanced

#4
runners090
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dude playing pheonix is like playing reyna
if u cant hit your shots then u might as well go back to aimlabs or perma dm

#6
Lordsalih
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still, attack sided ult orbs are way too valuable for phoenix, for example, its so ez to farm 4 ults on a single fracture attack side

#9
FOURTHLYGOAT
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nah i think acethyr has a point here. phoenix ult farming is good but thats kind of the whole point, he trades raw ability power for consistent ult economy. his molly is situational and the wall doesnt do damage, so if you're giving him consistent ults you have to balance it somewhere. the fracture attack thing is real but thats more a map problem than a character problem imo, lots of agents farm fast on that side. he feels right where he needs to be.

#10
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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It's really not that easy though. If you're not investing utility, then every one of those orbs leaves you vulnerable either to an awp/high-low when contacting up or a util trap play when the enemy team catches on

#5
Acethyr
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i think its fine
its his niche, he gets ults pretty often
his molly and wall are decent but nothing crazy so them being slightly "underpowered" makes up for it

#7
Klawed
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They gotta make his ulti atleast 7 points

#8
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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Facts. That TMV video was so wrong. He's been solidly balanced ever since flash became his signature, just slept on because everyone was still br00ch pilled

#11
Aminbg02
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the only realistic change is making him a 7 orb

#12
Chetin
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but why tho?

#13
Aminbg02
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too op for pro play i feel ,if you just orb plant die you can get an ult every 3rd round and that's without gettin kills

#15
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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The ult is cheap to offset his molly and wall being lower value in comparison to other duelist abilities

It's similar to how Skye with two signature charges isn't broken because one of her abilities is just a team heal

#17
Chetin
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too op

how? he is fine the constant ult cicle can also be avoided by just fighting the orbs. If you play only for retake and don't fight the map your bound to lose

#14
Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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Phoenix op blind and 6 point ult that gets more value than a good amount of 8 point ults is not broken

#16
lyssss
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ult is too strong, he feels balanced but realistically he's too strong compared to other duelists rn, but the only reason is that they killed neon yoru and heavily nerfed waylay

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