people who say what I said in the title, what is your thought process?
Dambi is currently the only one in the world who is making neon seem this stupid broken.
Neon is a very good agent, but right now, Dambi is the one that needs a nerf.
players like aspas, meiy, buzz, miniboo, ara, comeback, and even fucking t3xture cant replicate what Dambi does.
especially aspas, he makes neon look like phoenix without the flashes
idk about everyone else but i personally find his neon movement very satisfying to watch
the real culprits are the sentinel nerfs and judge, those are actual problems, not neon.
gutterslugs [#2]nah the judge sprays he hits ts travels miles
true, judge is insane
anyone who says something a pro is doing requires no skill is below the minimum valid opinion rank and you should ignore them
catNmouse [#3]idk about everyone else but i personally find his neon movement very satisfying to watch
the real culprits are the sentinel nerfs and judge, those are actual problems, not neon.
yeah the judge is so busted for no reason and has been for so long, idk what changed to make it recognized
Tbf I don't think I've seen anybody say Dambi no skill. People say judge neon is no skill, which while I think no skill is a little much, I do agree with the idea that Neon + Judge is a combo that has too much effectiveness compared to relative difficulty.
why is aspas randomly catching strays 😭😭
but true the only one who comes even close to what we are seeing now was jawgemo in 24 neon meta and even then it wasnt that crazy
foythvlr [#8]why is aspas randomly catching strays 😭😭
but true the only one who comes even close to what we are seeing now was jawgemo in 24 neon meta and even then it wasnt that crazy
sorry i just hate him when he plays entry, if he learnt chamber or yoru, he would genuinely win all 3 trophies this year
dimmed [#7]Tbf I don't think I've seen anybody say Dambi no skill. People say judge neon is no skill, which while I think no skill is a little much, I do agree with the idea that Neon + Judge is a combo that has too much effectiveness compared to relative difficulty.
they say judge neon is no skill ONLY when Dambi is playing. especially shanks or FNS's chats. Also saw demon1 say it.
also for whatever reason, people are spamming "tactical FPS btw" when its also a hero shooter. like demon1 started watching cs2 clips and GENUINELY comparing
hoboclap [#6]yeah the judge is so busted for no reason and has been for so long, idk what changed to make it recognized
it used to have 7 bullets btw
Morikoe [#11]it used to have 7 bullets btw
but atp the bucky overshadowed it with its mid range awp right click
hoboclap [#10]they say judge neon is no skill ONLY when Dambi is playing. especially shanks or FNS's chats. Also saw demon1 say it.
also for whatever reason, people are spamming "tactical FPS btw" when its also a hero shooter. like demon1 started watching cs2 clips and GENUINELY comparing
I don't watch watchparties so Idk if I can accurately comment on this but isn't twitch chat to actual well-thought and measured takes. If I had to guess then people likely only complain about Neon Judge when Dambi is playing it because he's the one who has pioneered it to the level he has. Similar situation to Brawk, where other pro do buy and use odin but people don't complain about that pro because they don't associate them with the gun.
dimmed [#14]I don't watch watchparties so Idk if I can accurately comment on this but isn't twitch chat to actual well-thought and measured takes. If I had to guess then people likely only complain about Neon Judge when Dambi is playing it because he's the one who has pioneered it to the level he has. Similar situation to Brawk, where other pro do buy and use odin but people don't complain about that pro because they don't associate them with the gun.
Yeah chats are js stupid.
i said the exact same shit with brawks odin
https://x.com/vctpacific/status/2032498925274587599 he train bro respect 🙇♂️🫡
i’m pretty much fully convinced ns also would’ve won champs 24 if they weren’t in tier 2 this guy is the biggest neon merchant i have ever seen
sideshowsbaldhead [#18]i’m pretty much fully convinced ns also would’ve won champs 24 if they weren’t in tier 2 this guy is the biggest neon merchant i have ever seen
yeah hes lowk the best neon ever, I think he even surpassed 2024-toronto t3xture
Aspas is a great Neon, he has a 1.14 all-time rating and 0.19 all-time FKPR
His Neon was looking like this in the last international he played
https://www.vlr.gg/542269/mibr-vs-nrg-valorant-champions-2025-ubsf/?game=233473&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2283/valorant-champions-2025?exclude=&min_rounds=20&agent=neon
glittering_yard [#20]Aspas is a great Neon, he has a 1.14 all-time rating and 0.19 all-time FKPR
His Neon was looking like this in the last international he played
https://www.vlr.gg/542269/mibr-vs-nrg-valorant-champions-2025-ubsf/?game=233473&tab=overviewhttps://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2283/valorant-champions-2025?exclude=&min_rounds=20&agent=neon
great neon
LOLL
hes the best at baiting with neon thats for sure
hoboclap [#21]great neon
LOLL
hes the best at baiting with neon thats for sure
Based on what?
neon is literally the coolest agent and its amazing seeing someone who has truly mastered it
honestly neon should not get nerfed until and until someone else has the kind of impact dambi does
glittering_yard [#22]Based on what?
based on every game hes played neon on this year and 2025
abcdshsh [#23]neon is literally the coolest agent and its amazing seeing someone who has truly mastered it
honestly neon should not get nerfed until and until someone else has the kind of impact dambi does
we saw glimpses of what was possible in toronto with t3xture and with kangkang, but never to this extent
hoboclap [#24]based on every game hes played neon on this year and 2025
Aspas Neon in VCT 2025:
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=74®ion=all&min_rounds=200&min_rating=1550&agent=neon&map_id=all×pan=all
every game hes played neon on this year
Thats a total of 3 maps where MIBR in general was inconsistent and aspas was still recovering from a heart surgery
glittering_yard [#26]Aspas Neon in VCT 2025:
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=74®ion=all&min_rounds=200&min_rating=1550&agent=neon&map_id=all×pan=allevery game hes played neon on this year
Thats a total of 3 maps where MIBR in general was inconsistent and aspas was still recovering from a heart surgery
Aspas got heart surgery after the season ended. dont kid urself
also, rating doesnt mean shit when hes not entrying. a real entry would have 0.9 rating while also having the most first interactions.
the only duelists we have seen that does good and entries is t3xture, kangkang, and now dambi
hoboclap [#27]Aspas got heart surgery after the season ended. dont kid urself
also, rating doesnt mean shit when hes not entrying. a real entry would have 0.9 rating while also having the most first interactions.
the only duelists we have seen that does good and entries is t3xture, kangkang, and now dambi
but aspas entries, for example, he has a higher FKPR than both t3xture and Dambi
I dont think you know the full concept of being an "entry >fragger<", and aspas has great all time numbers on Neon. Great duelists are not measured by how many times they mindlessly press W until they kill or die, thats just a human drone
Icy would be the GOAT duelist if that was the case
it sounds like you just hate aspas for no reason, probably drowning on that aspas baiter agenda
Aspas got heart surgery after the season ended. dont kid urself
Bro, he spent months without touching the game of Valorant because of the tumor, what are you talking about
To be honest, only Dambi makes Neon work. The other Neon players look so easy to kill compared to him and most of the time dont have his FK to FD rate
glittering_yard [#30]but aspas entries, for example, he has a higher FKPR than both t3xture and Dambi
I dont think you know the full concept of being an "entry >fragger<", and aspas has great all time numbers on Neon. Great duelists are not measured by how many times they mindlessly press W until they kill or die, thats just a human drone
Icy would be the GOAT duelist if that was the case
it sounds like you just hate aspas for no reason, probably drowning on that aspas baiter agenda
Aspas got heart surgery after the season ended. dont kid urself
Bro, he spent months without touching the game of Valorant because of the tumor, what are you talking about
Bro, he spent months without touching the game of Valorant because of the tumor, what are you talking about
yes, AFTER the 2025 season ended. he got the surgery after champs, he made a whole tweet or sm about not being able to scrim with zekken.
also, he gets most of his fbs in defense. not a true entry
SiwooHaechok [#31]To be honest, only Dambi makes Neon work. The other Neon players look so easy to kill compared to him and most of the time dont have his FK to FD rate
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hoboclap [#32]Bro, he spent months without touching the game of Valorant because of the tumor, what are you talking about
yes, AFTER the 2025 season ended. he got the surgery after champs, he made a whole tweet or sm about not being able to scrim with zekken.
also, he gets most of his fbs in defense. not a true entry
In 2025, Aspas had a 0.30 First Engagements Per Round on Neon
For example, another great Neon, Zmjjkk, had 0.25 First Engagements Per Round for his team. Lower First Engagements than Aspas
So how was Aspas bad on Neon in 2025?
glittering_yard [#34]In 2025, Aspas had a 0.30 First Engagements Per Round on Neon
For example, another great Neon, Zmjjkk, had 0.25 First Engagements Per Round for his team. Lower First Engagements than Aspas
So how was Aspas bad on Neon in 2025?
Absolute horse shit. defense awp merchant
hoboclap [#25]we saw glimpses of what was possible in toronto with t3xture and with kangkang, but never to this extent
its insane that the two greatest neons ever are both on the same team i.e dambi and rb
gutterslugs [#2]nah the judge sprays he hits ts travels miles
Honestly I think he does aim it a bit more than people think he does and also he always runs in when they are blinded or decayed or vulnerabled. If it was so easy to do what he does then there would be so many neons in the league. Instead practically no one has the teamwork and raw mechanical skill at the same time to do this kinda shit. It's a unique fucking style that they've put a lot of effort into that is working well for them.
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