Outlaw, judge(kinda), Odin, shorty
outlaws fine, odin needs a price increase, the shotguns are always a nightmare to balance so idk
imo a perfectly good shorty nerf would be that if u're jumping with it the accuracy is way off + and so that u cant just 2 click spam mid range and still kill like let it deal up to 140
Cael [#4]imo a perfectly good shorty nerf would be that if u're jumping with it the accuracy is way off + and so that u cant just 2 click spam mid range and still kill like let it deal up to 140
for example sheriff long range doesnt kill phantom also deals less/ odin should also deal less long range or have a way less penetration from mid to long range
Marii [#6]Outlaw is NOT fine it shoots way too fast
yeah that's kinda the point of the gun
Marii [#6]Outlaw is NOT fine it shoots way too fast
true a perfect nerf for outlaw would be to nerf the second bullet how many times we see someone just whiff the first bullet completely but its fine cause theres insta second they know its strong so they dont even try to hit every shot unless u're playing a very agressive spot
Cael [#10]nah the point of the gun is that it still kills low shield but not full shield meanwhile marshall only kills no shield
it shoots that fast because it only has 2 bullets and a very long reload speed, that's a design choice
how would you even change the outlaw, it looks fine too me?
odin needs ammo reduction or penetration from high to mid
shorty is fine, maybe a little price increase
shotguns are fine, there are many ways to counter them (reveals, mollies, flashes etc)
jawn [#11]it shoots that fast because it only has 2 bullets and a very long reload speed, that's a design choice
is the reload really that slow? i'd say its pretty much the same that half a sec doesnt really make a difference especially since u're supposed to play from a safer long range spot he only diff is that u HAVE to reload earlier, but bcs its so fckn strong ppl play it turbo agressive. Regardless its a essentially a cheaper operator when it shoots that fast if a lets say vandal is peeking u if he doesnt 1 tap u he's dead that's the same for operator
SENfns [#5]and shorty make that shit 500
defeats the purpose of being able to easily buy it as a second weapon, maybe lower its firerate and up the spread while jumping and moving
Cael [#13]is the reload really that slow? i'd say its pretty much the same that half a sec doesnt really make a difference especially since u're supposed to play from a safer long range spot he only diff is that u HAVE to reload earlier, but bcs its so fckn strong ppl play it turbo agressive. Regardless its a essentially a cheaper operator when it shoots that fast if a lets say vandal is peeking u if he doesnt 1 tap u he's dead that's the same for operator
the yoru tp/ neon into slide out/ chamber tp outlaw up close combo is just busted
Cael [#13]is the reload really that slow? i'd say its pretty much the same that half a sec doesnt really make a difference especially since u're supposed to play from a safer long range spot he only diff is that u HAVE to reload earlier, but bcs its so fckn strong ppl play it turbo agressive. Regardless its a essentially a cheaper operator when it shoots that fast if a lets say vandal is peeking u if he doesnt 1 tap u he's dead that's the same for operator
the reload is long enough where you can't reasonably hold or fight for a prolonged time, if people hear 2 outlaw shots then they're pushing because they know they have now a timing to take all the space they want
it also doens't shoot fast enough where it is a genuine threat against full shields, 2 shotting people is so rare
jawn [#16]the reload is long enough where you can't reasonably hold or fight for a prolonged time, if people hear 2 outlaw shots then they're pushing because they know they have now a timing to take all the space they want
it also doens't shoot fast enough where it is a genuine threat against full shields, 2 shotting people is so rare
yeah they hear 2 outlaw shots 2 ppl less and u hear a tp out what abt it, full shield the second u dont get 1 tapp'd u still win and how many times people whiff those peek's especially since w outlaw tp u can position urself anywhere