Can't decide between C9, TS or Pcfic
Worst VCT team
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How are c9 even in these discussions bro
They were literally top 4 in Americas and made a sidegrade
Istg people watching Val with their eyes closed
Uncleben [#2]How are c9 even in these discussions bro
They were literally top 4 in Americas and made a sidegradeIstg people watching Val with their eyes closed
offseason
C9 at least has oxy, penny, and v1c and PCF at least has turkish talent, TS has nothing
catNmouse [#3]offseason
Wasn’t that among their first ever games as a roster together?
Uncleben [#5]Wasn’t that among their first ever games as a roster together?
yeah, i think by this time they will have their roles sorted out and look like a competent team in kickoff since roles were all over the place in the offseason
there are some question marks such as xeppaa full time scan and zellsis IGLing but not to the point that they are literal bottom feeders
TentacleThing [#4]C9 at least has oxy, penny, and v1c and PCF at least has turkish talent, TS has nothing
BBL yoinked pcfics team, they are left with nothing but tier 2 scraps
catNmouse [#6]yeah, i think by this time they will have their roles sorted out and look like a competent team in kickoff since roles were all over the place in the offseason
there are some question marks such as xeppaa full time scan and zellsis IGLing but not to the point that they are literal bottom feeders
Xeppaa played a lot of sova and fade, I think that’s a non factor
The biggest question mark to me will be zellsis’s calling
Uncleben [#2]How are c9 even in these discussions bro
They were literally top 4 in Americas and made a sidegradeIstg people watching Val with their eyes closed
Zellsis and Xeppaa shouldn't be paid to play this game anymore
KiwiJuice [#7]BBL yoinked pcfics team, they are left with nothing but tier 2 scraps
I mean even tier 2 scraps are better than what TS has.
KiwiJuice [#9]Zellsis and Xeppaa shouldn't be paid to play this game anymore
zellsis and xeppaa were one breach ult from making a masters in 2023
KiwiJuice [#9]Zellsis and Xeppaa shouldn't be paid to play this game anymore
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shrike- [#11]zellsis and xeppaa were one breach ult from making a masters in 2023
Couple round from beating both sen and nrg this year too, so a couple rounds from making champs
TentacleThing [#10]I mean even tier 2 scraps are better than what TS has.
So far it's NINJA, Qpert and someone else, so not turkish...
shrike- [#11]zellsis and xeppaa were one breach ult from making a masters in 2023
Key word is 2023
TS and it's not even close. Like they are the actual woats, 48th team in tier 1 for sure
TentacleThing [#10]I mean even tier 2 scraps are better than what TS has.
ts not even a turkish roster bro
Uncleben [#13]Couple round from beating both sen and nrg this year too, so a couple rounds from making champs
shi, MIBR were a few rounds away from beating NRG in uppers, in that sense, Xenom and Artzin were a few rounds from becoming VCT Champions. Similarly to C9, that shit doesn't mean anything.
KiwiJuice [#18]shi, MIBR were a few rounds away from beating NRG in uppers, in that sense, Xenom and Artzin were a few rounds from becoming VCT Champions. Similarly to C9, that shit doesn't mean anything.
in the same sense, saying zellsis and xeppaa shouldn’t be paid to play doesn’t mean anything when they’ve shown they’re still capable of making things competitive, even more so when they’re on the same team
KiwiJuice [#18]shi, MIBR were a few rounds away from beating NRG in uppers, in that sense, Xenom and Artzin were a few rounds from becoming VCT Champions. Similarly to C9, that shit doesn't mean anything.
Exactly, mibr were round from beating drx, fnc, and nrg, so they played very well at champions
C9 also were a solid team and were very overhated
shrike- [#19]in the same sense, saying zellsis and xeppaa shouldn’t be paid to play doesn’t mean anything when they’ve shown they’re still capable of making things competitive, even more so when they’re on the same team
I'm saying there are a number of players not even being offered a chance to play for a tier 1 team, while these bums, especially Xeppa, keep getting these opportunities for no apparent reason.
C9??? they shouldn't be in the worst VCT team discussion, they're just incredibly mid
Cold take sen will be bottom feeders this year maybe not bottom 3 but possibly outside of top 4
catNmouse [#6]yeah, i think by this time they will have their roles sorted out and look like a competent team in kickoff since roles were all over the place in the offseason
there are some question marks such as xeppaa full time scan and zellsis IGLing but not to the point that they are literal bottom feeders
Xeppaa always stuck me as more of an aggro agent player - usually playing Skye, Raze and KAYO so his adjustment to full scan will hopefully not be too difficult if he can tailor that to his new agent pool.
C9 definitely will be underwhelming but not worst in Americas - that will most likely be FURIA considering that their mishmash roster probably still doesn't have quality coaching.
TS are arguably the worst considering how many blundered opportunities they had to sign Filipino talent or any APAC talent to their roster. I love JessieVash as a vet of esports, but he needs to become a coach and let the new blood take over. Sylvan and TenTen aren't awful, but they really need a standout player to balance out the other players who aren't gonna be making crazy plays round after round.
PCFIC is poor management, but they could at least be fun to witness if they cook up an interesting mixed roster. Still, I can't expect much from them since it will most likely be how APEKS were last season. Honourable mention to ULF as they have terrible management who aren't paying the players and staff.
Jezy [#26]Cold take sen will be bottom feeders this year maybe not bottom 3 but possibly outside of top 4
If not bottom 3 or top 4, they are middle of the pack. That’s different from bottom feeders, no?
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