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Guys, do you really think that males have vantage over females? Listen, they have the exactly same potential, it's a eletronic game, not a physical sport.

Some people had hating team that have trans / nb people, but remember that this camp is not for females only, it's an INCLUSIVE CAMP.

"But then, why this "males" didn't play in vct, they suck?"
No, they don't play there because they don't have opportunities. And the reason for that is the prejudice on the community, and it comes from dark times that don't exist anymore.

Do you really think that Petra, Bastarda, Noia, Srn, Jelly, and other girls are worse than the guys from VCT? Absolutely not! They just doesn't had the opportunity! AND THAT'S WHY THEY CREATED THIS F#@+$ CAMP, TO INCLUDE THIS PLAYERS THAT SUFFER WITH THAT!!!

If after that you still think that is unfair trans people play against females, I have something to tell you... You are a dumbass.

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yea bro the best gc team srg cant compete in tier 2 na

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GattoVLR
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pokpi [#2]

yea bro the best gc team srg cant compete in tier 2 na

Flor in a shit team made a lot of highlights in tier 1, don't talk shit

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GattoVLR [#3]

Flor in a shit team made a lot of highlights in tier 1, don't talk shit

flor is a one of one
i would expect a player who goes +30 almost everytime to do well in tier 1

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Do you really think that Petra, Bastarda, Noia, Srn, Jelly, and other girls are worse than the guys from VCT?

yes but the point of gc is to close that gap by making a better environment for them to evolve without inteference coming from misogynist and transphobic remarks

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GattoVLR
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foythvlr [#5]

Do you really think that Petra, Bastarda, Noia, Srn, Jelly, and other girls are worse than the guys from VCT?

yes but the point of gc is to close that gap by making a better environment for them to evolve without inteference coming from misogynist and transphobic remarks

Yes, I agree. But if you tell me that Srn or Bastarda is worse than Tex or Com, I call you crazy. They are on same level, just need to be playing against better teams to get better

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GattoVLR [#6]

Yes, I agree. But if you tell me that Srn or Bastarda is worse than Tex or Com, I call you crazy. They are on same level, just need to be playing against better teams to get better

they are bro hate to break it to you

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GattoVLR [#3]

Flor in a shit team made a lot of highlights in tier 1, don't talk shit

Do you not realize this goes against your entire point?

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Ahnri [#8]

Do you not realize this goes against your entire point?

I think you don't understand my point. Trans people just play the GC because they don't have opportunities. Flor is better than 30/40% of the duelists on Tier 1, and even then just ONE team made an offer, after 2 years of high level gameplay

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Ahnri [#8]

Do you not realize this goes against your entire point?

His point is that…ALMOST key word almost all gc players can’t compete in tier 1 there are a few who are very good case in point flor but 97% of gc cannot like he said srg the best team can barely hang in tier 2 vcl

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GattoVLR
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foythvlr [#7]

they are bro hate to break it to you

Better? You can't be serious... They just have better chances to play against the best teams. While GC teams rarely have that opportunity. This makes a LOT of difference, even in other sports, not only esports

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GattoVLR [#11]

Better? You can't be serious... They just have better chances to play against the best teams. While GC teams rarely have that opportunity. This makes a LOT of difference, even in other sports, not only esports

that can also be said on the opposite. tex and c0m are bad, but they are bad against aspas, mada, zekken, etc... on their shoes, i 100% believe bstrdd and srn would do even worse, as much as i love them. a 5 stack by bottom of the barrel T1 players would demolish top gc teams currently (maybe not furia cause they are cursed). in fact, top GC teams and players have played vs T2/3 teams and still haven't hold up properly yet. do i think they can have a bigger potential? yeah absolutely. do i think they are evolving? yeah too. but they are not there yet. these comparisons are based on a hypothetical scenario that is not real yet, and they only hurt the scene by making expectations grow too big. baby steps need to be made first

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GattoVLR [#9]

I think you don't understand my point. Trans people just play the GC because they don't have opportunities. Flor is better than 30/40% of the duelists on Tier 1, and even then just ONE team made an offer, after 2 years of high level gameplay

But you are asking why people believe males have a advantage over females… and your SOLE EXAMPLE… is Florescent who’s amazing one of the best duelist in the game… but she’s a biological male… like… she went to tier 1 and was great her team went to tier 2 with a solid duelist in her own right and were like… borderline abysmal you don’t see how that kinda.. ya know…

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Ahnri [#8]

Do you not realize this goes against your entire point?

Trans women are women is his point

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TheFumbler [#14]

Trans women are women is his point

I’m all for respecting gender until we start being delusional… if we’re talking about the biological comparisons of a male and female your identity is irrelevant…

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Ahnri [#15]

I’m all for respecting gender until we start being delusional… if we’re talking about the biological comparisons of a male and female your identity is irrelevant…

In gaming men = women is his point

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TheFumbler [#16]

In gaming men = women is his point

And his point is back by a biological male being the only player of her team to find success after leaving GC… mind you… tier 2 vs tier 1 at that… my point… is that his point is horribly justified…

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The gc league does make it so that there isn't as much as an incentive to make t1, there's a smaller talent pool, lower quality practice, and a lot of the time in team sports people are unlikely to choose mixed gender rosters for some reason. That's about it

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i don't think there is any physical advantage of a man over a woman in gaming, the main difference is experience and practice. While Riot's GC project is quite commendable i am quite firmly against the overall structure of giving the GC players no real incentive to play in t2 or t1 where they will learn and improve even more. The level of play is bad compared to tier 1 just because they haven't played in those levels, your competition also decides your quality a lot.

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Tier 2 and tier 1 players are better than gc simply bc of how much experience they have

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Jezy
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No its an opportunity gap because many people grew up leaning (male in terms of strength protector etc) (Im including myself in many people cant speak for anyone not grown up outside the US/latam countries with majority latino culture.)

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