With patch 11.08 the total number of times a sova dart / Fade haunt can be used in a round is 2 which is the same with skye except skye doesn't have a cool down. Are we back in 2023 perma skye initiator meta?
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I don't think so. Fades eye isn't even her most impactful util, and you just have to be smarter with Sova, he isn't destroyed.
no, fade still will have 4 pieces of util for info minimum in the forms of 2 eyes and 2 dogs (sometimes seize can get info but its not as reliable so) (assuming she stays alive), 5 if theres a spike plant, skye is hard stuck on 3
with the bomb plant fade have enough time for a third eye, so 5 instances of info. skye stays at 3 due to flash not recharging
How do get 3 eyes
100 seconds to plant the spike, 45 seconds after spike plant
145 seconds / 60 seconds cool down = 2.4167
So only 2 times? The whole point of 11.08 is that sova / Fade only have two instances to use their signature (see Sliggy's video on it)
two instances till they get spike down. sometimes you can get 3rd before 10 seconds of bomb explosion
If you throw the first eye off round start, then use your 1st regen eye after 60 seconds, and if you plant minimum 15 seconds after throwing that 2nd eye you will be able to regenerate a 3rd. First eye: 0:01 -> 2nd eye 1:01 -> Plant Spike ~1:21 (Timer reset to 45 seconds) -> 3rd eye 2:01 or with 5 seconds remaining on spike timer. This scenario is just one example obv 15 second minimum means you'll get eye as spike goes off, if you 1st eye and 2nd eye ASAP like this scenario and if last second plant (1:36) then you will get a 3rd eye with 15 seconds remaining on spike timer. (Hope none of this math is cooked and obv even with optimal play there will be some seconds shaved off in staging, doing lineup, etc.)
Same goes for any 60 second CD regen
This mess is why it should just be a single recharge and that's it. The math behind 60s cooldowns is so awkward, and it really shouldn't ever be the plan to play so slowly you get a 3rd cast
Ik the example is Fade uses 2nd eye to take site, and then even if they have site it is optimal to wait more than 15 seconds if time permits so that Fade will get another eye in post plant.
i think you failed math, you forgot that cool down starts after you use your first eye, so the 2.4167 eye comes after you already used one
you use one within first 20 seconds, second one between 60-80 seconds, as long as bomb is planted 20 seconds or more after you throw your second eye, you get another 45 seconds meaning you get a third eye
Skye is unique cuz she is both a scan and a flash which was why she was the perma Initiator in 2023 when her flash was rechargeable
Idt i think skye is just flash she has a dog thats cool but its like the only ability both fade and sova have multiple recon abilities
the real thing that might revive her is if harbor is busted and still has cascade because that is one of the best ability synergies in the game
Far from guaranteed though.
Its the map pool its always been the map pool skye has always been a strong pick on bind the overall iniator nerfs just made it more apparent
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