why are people saying this is an upgrade over jonahp?
this is at most a side grade and least downgrade
jonahp stage 2 americas was literally him bro
and seven is literally an odin merchant (trust me i know alot about merchants)
I AM DEFEDNING JONAHP FOREVER
People are gonna say the same old bullshit about something needs to change but I agree with you here
Because G2 can't win internationals with the current roster so they might be looking for changes
i don't even know how seven got so stupidly overrated like ???? bro the played against carrot farmers and lost, calm down
Yeah, it's not like Jonah is a bad player, so it needs to be a very obvious upgrade to replace him. If they're doing this, I hope is cryo senti and leaf flex, none of that babybay or seven bullshit
airke [#5]Yeah, it's not like Jonah is a bad player, so it needs to be a very obvious upgrade to replace him. If they're doing this, I hope is cryo senti and leaf flex, none of that babybay or seven bullshit
cryo? g2?
Every year you guys continue to underrate seven and t2. It’s like you guys don’t know how Trent got picked up lol, learn a thing or two about tier 2 before you comment on player quality
SAMPV6 [#4]i don't even know how seven got so stupidly overrated like ???? bro the played against carrot farmers and lost, calm down
How is seven not good?
catNmouse [#7]who said it was an upgrade?
I did, seven plays all of jonah’s agents except viper and is a better fragger
JonahPork [#8]Every year you guys continue to underrate seven and t2. It’s like you guys don’t know how Trent got picked up lol, learn a thing or two about tier 2 before you comment on player quality
don't doubt tier 2
just doubt seven
idk why youre treating him like hes shit tho. it is a very reasonable pick up. you lose jonahp goat support but you upgrade on firepower and flexibility. it just depends on what G2 wants
foythvlr [#15]idk why youre treating him like hes shit tho. it is a very reasonable pick up. you lose jonahp goat support but you upgrade on firepower and flexibility. it just depends on what G2 wants
i’m sorry but jonahp is better than seven in every single aspect
Asto3 [#16]i’m sorry but jonahp is better than seven in every single aspect
seven is way better mechanically
doesnt matter who you swap for jonahpiss, if a certain terrorist in the coaching booth truly is deluded enough to think they have a 7-map pool and no viper bind comps are good, they're not winning
JonahPork [#8]Every year you guys continue to underrate seven and t2. It’s like you guys don’t know how Trent got picked up lol, learn a thing or two about tier 2 before you comment on player quality
Trent got picked up by dropping nuclear numbers in scrims you don't think seven would have been picked up if he was doing that
Asto3 [#16]i’m sorry but jonahp is better than seven in every single aspect
well if you really think that not much i can do i guess
foythvlr [#20]well if you really think that not much i can do i guess
holy english
KOLLLY [#19]Trent got picked up by dropping nuclear numbers in scrims you don't think seven would have been picked up if he was doing that
He just drops nuclear numbers in tier 2 instead, which matters way more than scrims. My whole point is that you can’t say an elite tier 2 player won’t also perform in tier 1 until proven otherwise
laifu [#14]best rated flex player in NA tier 2 arguably for the past 2 years
'not good'
Hes definitely good, but so is jonah. For a team that is already expected to be one of the worlds best is it worth the risk? (Assuming that the team isnt just wanting a roster move to avoid stagnation)
JonahPork [#10]I did, seven plays all of jonah’s agents except viper and is a better fragger
seven has been pro since 2021 and has not done anything bro
KOLLLY [#19]Trent got picked up by dropping nuclear numbers in scrims you don't think seven would have been picked up if he was doing that
the guard was a project from the ground up with no expectations
g2 is a world class roster that's already been proven
i would rather prefer a proven talent than a scrim merchant
also jonahp was literally called the professor of scriminology by fns
also icy was frying on scrims
laifu [#14]best rated flex player in NA tier 2 arguably for the past 2 years
'not good'
jonahp was the best rated flex player tied with okeanos in stage 2
i would much prefer to have the best in tier 1 than in tier 2
tonyhart [#26]seven has been pro since 2021 and has not done anything bro
Because he was really young when he started brother, he’s only 20 which means he would be the youngest player on G2, and 5 years younger than Jonah. And the number 1 thing is that he’s improved every single year since he started playing. Upward trends are what you want to see out of a tier 2 player.
JonahPork [#24]He just drops nuclear numbers in tier 2 instead, which matters way more than scrims. My whole point is that you can’t say an elite tier 2 player won’t also perform in tier 1 until proven otherwise
I agree
but if I'm g2 which won all regionals and placed high in masters
i would stick with the proven roster rather than take a chance for a tier 2 player
for the hope to "get lucky"
Iquickscopei [#27]the guard was a project from the ground up with no expectations
g2 is a world class roster that's already been proven
i would rather prefer a proven talent than a scrim merchant
also jonahp was literally called the professor of scriminology by fns
also icy was frying on scrims
Yeah man cuz that’s how you win events. PRX kicked mindfreak for a tier 2 player in PatMen and won Toronto. Fnatic fucking kicked Derke who was a 2x event winner and replaced him with kaajak and got better.
Just say you don’t like change. Dont try to qualify your statements by saying they’re a world class roster and need proven talents.
Iquickscopei [#30]I agree
but if I'm g2 which won all regionals and placed high in masters
i would stick with the proven roster rather than take a chance for a tier 2 player
for the hope to "get lucky"
There’s no luck involved you just don’t respect the possibility that seven is tier 1 ready already bc you don’t respect the tier 2 system.
JonahPork [#31]Yeah man cuz that’s how you win events. PRX kicked mindfreak for a tier 2 player in PatMen and won Toronto. Fnatic fucking kicked Derke who was a 2x event winner and replaced him with kaajak and got better.
Just say you don’t like change. Dont try to qualify your statements by saying they’re a world class roster and need proven talents.
team heretics made back to back international finals with 3-4 rookies also
catNmouse [#33]team heretics made back to back international finals with 3-4 rookies also
Yep and NRG obv just won champs by picking up skuba and brawk (both of whom were less successful in tier 2 than seven btw lol)
foythvlr [#22]????
Your English was fine this guy is clearly an idiot by every measure
JonahPork [#32]There’s no luck involved you just don’t respect the possibility that seven is tier 1 ready already bc you don’t respect the tier 2 system.
Just because seven is tier one ready doesnt mean that he is an upgrade over every player in his role lol. C9 should kick xeppaas bum ass to pick up seven
monkeyman17 [#36]Just because seven is tier one ready doesnt mean that he is an upgrade over every player in his role lol. C9 should kick xeppaas bum ass to pick up seven
I didn’t say he was better than everyone in his role. I don’t think Jonah is the best flex in Americas
JonahPork [#37]I didn’t say he was better than everyone in his role. I don’t think Jonah is the best flex in Americas
Who do you have over him?
Banr [#39]Is there anything been shown to say seven is going in for jonahp?
nope, the only thing rumored is that jonah isn't resigned by G2
Banr [#39]Is there anything been shown to say seven is going in for jonahp?
only thing we know is that jonahp wasn’t scrimming with the team recently
catNmouse [#41]only thing we know is that jonahp wasn’t scrimming with the team recently
All im going to stay and feel free to come back to this later on if it's true yay still hasn't announced the team he is in and I don't think it crazy unlikely but we shall see
Slight downgrade
Guard core have been playing together for 4 years so building that chemistry up with Johann gonna take time
Once thats done, we're winning champs #G2ARMY
catNmouse [#38]Who do you have over him?
I’d take Ethan and zekken over him (Zekken is a flex now technically ig)
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