Reasoning behind 18+ for VCT?

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#1
theogblazen
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Especially now with Ascension teams being able to qual for LAN’s next year what sense does it make to keep this implemented.

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TraditionalFlyer
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Work visas

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theogblazen
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how does CS work around this

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gamergirl
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these people dk what they're talking about

all host countries for VCT leagues can grant Visa's for sports players

Riot has the 18 year old rule likely for contract reasons because under 18s can just get out of contracts whenever they want p much

there's no child labor laws that prevent this, because MOST countries that are played in have sports visa's where they can compete

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SENfns
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under 18s can't "work" past 10pm
if a series goes longer than 10pm riot is now in legal trouble
don't try to be a smartass

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gamergirl
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https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-workers/p-1a-athlete

stfu bro

they aren't getting work visa's in KR/Germany/US they'd get athlete visa's, stop yapping

how do you think Less and Zekken played in 2023 retard

also like you're a retard, the curfew is for 15 and under in the US, and I did a lot of research into EU visa's when I did my second year uni in Germany last year

riot does this because kids can tear up contracts lol

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SENfns
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zekken played after march (turned 18)
less played in brazil for lock in
and by the time americas started (after february) he was 18
dumb fuck
when you're in uni you're 18+
in eu https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/human-resources/types-employment-arrangements/teenage-workers/index_en.htm

Teenage employees cannot work between 10 pm and 6 am or between 11 pm and 7 am

#17
gamergirl
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alfajer's birthday is in june of the same year

you aren't right, let go, im educating you.

#20
SENfns
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yes bro i built a whole website in 5 minutes to prove you wrong

#23
gamergirl
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the latest german games start at 6:30 pm, bo5s start at like 4:30/5:30, send me the time where they went past 11

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SENfns
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Minimum Age - In order to be eligible to participate in a League as a Team Member, an individual must have been born on or before March 26, 2005 (“Minimum Age Requirement”)

Grandfathering. As an exception to the Minimum Age Requirement in Section 2.1.1. above, an individual that competed in a Challengers main event in any VCT League in 2022 and was born between March 26, 2005 and March 26, 2006, is eligible to participate if a parent or legal guardian accepts all of the rules and policies of the League on behalf of the individual

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KINGMANNY42
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dummy, dont doubt SENfns and his sources

#21
dimmed
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how do you think Alfajer played in 22 & 23?

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Minimum Age - In order to be eligible to participate in a League as a Team Member, an individual must have been born on or before March 26, 2005 (“Minimum Age Requirement”)

Grandfathering. As an exception to the Minimum Age Requirement in Section 2.1.1. above, an individual that competed in a Challengers main event in any VCT League in 2022 and was born between March 26, 2005 and March 26, 2006, is eligible to participate if a parent or legal guardian accepts all of the rules and policies of the League on behalf of the individual

22 - there was no age restriction
23 - these riot rules are put in place

#19
cloudberry
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You just called him a retard twice over a logical argument

#24
gamergirl
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the only actual argument is "what if they play past 11PM in germany"

#32
Hyxagon
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you can sign a form that allows you to work past 10 that’s not the issue
source: i fucking did that stfu

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SENfns
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mommy gotta sign that for you

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SENfns
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labour laws

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BerLINglazer
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cuz riot hate 16 and 17 year old

hold on shikush shevun

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BerLINglazer
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shikush shevun

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nightwinter14
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US labor laws (since they’re technically child laborers LOL)

#7
theogblazen
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how do other esports work around this then? Epic Games have 13+ for some games and even Cs is 16+ I believe

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Teunoin
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It’s the way the system is set up, I think on FN bc it isnt franchised it just dienst work the same

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theogblazen
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what about CS then, every team has a gamba sponsor when half there players can’t even gamble

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Idoski
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I don’t know anything but if I had to guess it’s probably something to do with the fact that they sign to teams specifically. Most teams seem to practice for quite a while and child labor laws prevent a minor from working for more than a certain amount per week. Another could be work visas, they’re probably much harder to get for a minor than an adult, so for T1 they want to ensure their teams can make it to tournaments with minimal hassle.

Cs probably just doesn’t bother since they’re all 3rd party tourneys and they want to do things their own way. Fortnite idk

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nightwinter14
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Valve doesn’t control the tournaments directly so it’s up the tournament organizers to implement age rules. I thought there were tournaments that were 16+ or 18+ in cs, which depends on local country labor laws too.

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Galactc
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It makes plenty of sense lowkey should be the standard for tier 1 or equivalent in most esports

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theogblazen
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plenty of sense yet the stars of most esports are below 18? We just wasting their primes

#18
EseemedRes1180
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Mainly for bank accounts and passports its possible but you need a guardian taking care of you. Its just more complicated and ig riot don't want to deal with it

#28
AxellS
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they will allow betting sponsors in league as well as in valorant, that's why, the rule was introduced in lol starting with last year when they first announced allowing betting sponsors starting with 2026, coincidence? i don't think so

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theogblazen
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I mean Falcons have m0nesy doing gamba ad’s so don’t really think it matters to much

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