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#1
Tomstar124

3rd best region is SEA

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Erm... well to be honest VS had the toughest group so... and NU 3rd in Masters 2, VS lost to eventual winners, while taking off a map vs GMB in Masters 3.
If any of SEA team wins Champions, fosho 3rd best but rn.... I don't know man

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DeluluGavin [#2]

Erm... well to be honest VS had the toughest group so... and NU 3rd in Masters 2, VS lost to eventual winners, while taking off a map vs GMB in Masters 3.
If any of SEA team wins Champions, fosho 3rd best but rn.... I don't know man

they are looking really really good tho. first ever team from SEA to make it to playoffs kudos to TS

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might be 2 sea teams. people sleeping on x10

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But the result was well worth it for Asian viewers who stayed up late, especially in the Philippines despite the SEA's reputation as an esports desert

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You mean 2nd best

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i want to watch fnatic and c9 make godly runs in this tournament to prove that VS isnt actually bad, their opponents are just insane

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latex [#6]

You mean 2nd best

Found the EU simp who’s not even from EU

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DeluluGavin [#2]

Erm... well to be honest VS had the toughest group so... and NU 3rd in Masters 2, VS lost to eventual winners, while taking off a map vs GMB in Masters 3.
If any of SEA team wins Champions, fosho 3rd best but rn.... I don't know man

THE THING IS, THERE IS NO TOUGHEST GROUP, THIS IS CHAMPIONS 16 TEAMS WERE THE BEST OF THE BEST

I've watched every match and there is not a single match that was very very 1 sided like g2 vs gambit in the 1st berlin

or g2 vs f4q in 1st berlin

every team fought like a champ

sometimes you just have to accept the fact that youre not the best or better than some teams, just accept the truth

how hard is it? what are you? 8?

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crazy_igel_fan [#8]

Found the EU simp who’s not even from EU

i mean, you dont have to be from EU to speak fax

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jajajaja [#9]

THE THING IS, THERE IS NO TOUGHEST GROUP, THIS IS CHAMPIONS 16 TEAMS WERE THE BEST OF THE BEST

I've watched every match and there is not a single match that was very very 1 sided like g2 vs gambit in the 1st berlin

or g2 vs f4q in 1st berlin

every team fought like a champ

sometimes you just have to accept the fact that youre not the best or better than some teams, just accept the truth

how hard is it? what are you? 8?

Besides the fullsense and CR games, all matches were very competitive

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jajajaja [#9]

THE THING IS, THERE IS NO TOUGHEST GROUP, THIS IS CHAMPIONS 16 TEAMS WERE THE BEST OF THE BEST

I've watched every match and there is not a single match that was very very 1 sided like g2 vs gambit in the 1st berlin

or g2 vs f4q in 1st berlin

every team fought like a champ

sometimes you just have to accept the fact that youre not the best or better than some teams, just accept the truth

how hard is it? what are you? 8?

team secret vs crazy racoon

vision strikers vs full sense

x10 vs vivo keyd

liquid vs kru

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I don’t wanna take anything away from SEA fans, but it’s just a fact that Team Secret definitely had an easier group than VS

Not having to beat a major region to qualify and having CR in your group 100% makes things easier

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unknown_trash [#7]

i want to watch fnatic and c9 make godly runs in this tournament to prove that VS isnt actually bad, their opponents are just insane

fnatic are definitely insane lol as long as derke keeps firing they can win the entire thing

c9b entire fate will be decided in quarters, if they somehow beat liquid they have a massive chance of winning the event

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DeluluGavin [#2]

Erm... well to be honest VS had the toughest group so... and NU 3rd in Masters 2, VS lost to eventual winners, while taking off a map vs GMB in Masters 3.
If any of SEA team wins Champions, fosho 3rd best but rn.... I don't know man

Third best group lol

FS sucks and fnatic are the weakest high seed going into the playoffs. C9 arent good either. Only gambits group was easier

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jajajaja [#9]

THE THING IS, THERE IS NO TOUGHEST GROUP, THIS IS CHAMPIONS 16 TEAMS WERE THE BEST OF THE BEST

I've watched every match and there is not a single match that was very very 1 sided like g2 vs gambit in the 1st berlin

or g2 vs f4q in 1st berlin

every team fought like a champ

sometimes you just have to accept the fact that youre not the best or better than some teams, just accept the truth

how hard is it? what are you? 8?

urm... did u watch the vct??? Don't get so worked up man its just my opinion. If you ask me, is SEA more impressive than KR in champs? My answer is YES YES AND YES. You are getting triggered by this? what are you? 8?

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DeluluGavin
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Sprouts [#13]

I don’t wanna take anything away from SEA fans, but it’s just a fact that Team Secret definitely had an easier group than VS

Not having to beat a major region to qualify and having CR in your group 100% makes things easier

Thats what I was trying to say... I guess we cannot avoid ppl attacking you for having an opinion, I'm used to it tho

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Sprouts [#13]

I don’t wanna take anything away from SEA fans, but it’s just a fact that Team Secret definitely had an easier group than VS

Not having to beat a major region to qualify and having CR in your group 100% makes things easier

True. The real miracle run will be if X10 beat NV. Also really sad VS fell off :( was expecting a deep run from them

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big_chungus69 [#15]

Third best group lol

FS sucks and fnatic are the weakest high seed going into the playoffs. C9 arent good either. Only gambits group was easier

C9 and Fnatic look more impressive to me than ACE and Envy

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Sprouts [#13]

I don’t wanna take anything away from SEA fans, but it’s just a fact that Team Secret definitely had an easier group than VS

Not having to beat a major region to qualify and having CR in your group 100% makes things easier

VS did play very poorly though - I was watching Lothar's vod review streams (the FNC game) and the glaring mistakes in their approach were being highlighted. In the Breeze game today, there seemed to be a lot of wasteful util usage - sending a Skye dog AND a Sova drone together in several attack rounds, for instance. Buzz not even waiting for the Sova drone only to get killed by a corner-camping Mitch. Something you just don't expect from a team of VS' calibre, rather from any team on this stage. The other SEA teams truly impressed however, with their on point util usage, and proper discipline.

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Sprouts [#13]

I don’t wanna take anything away from SEA fans, but it’s just a fact that Team Secret definitely had an easier group than VS

Not having to beat a major region to qualify and having CR in your group 100% makes things easier

as a region kr isn't really strong since only one team dominates kr. any talented player vision strikers tries to acquire which results in not a very competitive environment.

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crazy_igel_fan
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corcscrewdick [#10]

i mean, you dont have to be from EU to speak fax

cringe

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DeluluGavin
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latex [#20]

VS did play very poorly though - I was watching Lothar's vod review streams (the FNC game) and the glaring mistakes in their approach were being highlighted. In the Breeze game today, there seemed to be a lot of wasteful util usage - sending a Skye dog AND a Sova drone together in several attack rounds, for instance. Buzz not even waiting for the Sova drone only to get killed by a corner-camping Mitch. Something you just don't expect from a team of VS' calibre, rather from any team on this stage. The other SEA teams truly impressed however, with their on point util usage, and proper discipline.

VS was... very shaky. Although skye dog + sova drone combo is quite useful in some situations.

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DeluluGavin [#16]

urm... did u watch the vct??? Don't get so worked up man its just my opinion. If you ask me, is SEA more impressive than KR in champs? My answer is YES YES AND YES. You are getting triggered by this? what are you? 8?

HAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"VS LOST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TOUGHEST GROUP"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 AND FNATIC FANS LAUGHING HARD BRO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 qualified from LCQ and the rosters were newly built
Fnatic has not played since iceland

and youre saying that like they were not having a tough match too

just accept the fact that KR right now is like stax = 100% shittalk 0 skill

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DeluluGavin
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jajajaja [#24]

HAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"VS LOST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TOUGHEST GROUP"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 AND FNATIC FANS LAUGHING HARD BRO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 qualified from LCQ and the rosters were newly built
Fnatic has not played since iceland

and youre saying that like they were not having a tough match too

just accept the fact that KR right now is like stax = 100% shittalk 0 skill

Thank you for taking your time to shit talk under my reply. Very obsessed with shit-talking VS i see... well all i can say is "Rent free"

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thatpower
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jajajaja [#24]

HAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"VS LOST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TOUGHEST GROUP"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 AND FNATIC FANS LAUGHING HARD BRO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 qualified from LCQ and the rosters were newly built
Fnatic has not played since iceland

and youre saying that like they were not having a tough match too

just accept the fact that KR right now is like stax = 100% shittalk 0 skill

I mean we can all agree that group c was the easiest by miles jajajajajajjajajajaja

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sez33
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jajajaja [#24]

HAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"VS LOST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TOUGHEST GROUP"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 AND FNATIC FANS LAUGHING HARD BRO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 qualified from LCQ and the rosters were newly built
Fnatic has not played since iceland

and youre saying that like they were not having a tough match too

just accept the fact that KR right now is like stax = 100% shittalk 0 skill

You’re cringe as fuck imagine sitting back and typing this incoherent shit. Judging from your name I know you’re a brain dead troll with little to no education.

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yaboidree
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crazy_igel_fan [#8]

Found the EU simp who’s not even from EU

don't worry, u will find many more.

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sundaymondaytuesday
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Sprouts [#13]

I don’t wanna take anything away from SEA fans, but it’s just a fact that Team Secret definitely had an easier group than VS

Not having to beat a major region to qualify and having CR in your group 100% makes things easier

You are right but the question is who is the better region and it is SEA. I know VS stronger than the whole SEA team but the overall is SEA region is better.

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bronzil71
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Yes 3rd best region is SEA. 1. Brazil 2. EMEA 3. SEA

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DeluluGavin [#25]

Thank you for taking your time to shit talk under my reply. Very obsessed with shit-talking VS i see... well all i can say is "Rent free"

That's average SEA fan for you with CAPS on kekW

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DeluluGavin
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tRONGOD [#31]

That's average SEA fan for you with CAPS on kekW

well every region got some no-brain users... they are everywhere HAHA

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sundaymondaytuesday [#29]

You are right but the question is who is the better region and it is SEA. I know VS stronger than the whole SEA team but the overall is SEA region is better.

100% agree, as a region, SEA is stronger than KR

It’s similar to how BR as a region is better than LATAM, but KRU > VK, VKS, FUR

#34
corcscrewdick
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crazy_igel_fan [#22]

cringe

dont care didnt ask + ratio + cope

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County
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bronzil71 [#30]

Yes 3rd best region is SEA. 1. Brazil 2. EMEA 3. SEA

copium

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SpaceX2120
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DeluluGavin [#3]

they are looking really really good tho. first ever team from SEA to make it to playoffs kudos to TS

I am a VS fan as well I rewatched the VOD the IGLin in today's game was questinable not saying Stax is a bad igl just saying some decisions were questionable I VS were also whiffiIng I feel like there was also some miscomunication but amazing comeaback on Ascent 11-1 to 13-10 but VS would smoke any SEA team like FS wich they did Vission Strikers Is winning a International LAN next year for sure

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jajajaja [#9]

THE THING IS, THERE IS NO TOUGHEST GROUP, THIS IS CHAMPIONS 16 TEAMS WERE THE BEST OF THE BEST

I've watched every match and there is not a single match that was very very 1 sided like g2 vs gambit in the 1st berlin

or g2 vs f4q in 1st berlin

every team fought like a champ

sometimes you just have to accept the fact that youre not the best or better than some teams, just accept the truth

how hard is it? what are you? 8?

VS just did not play like they ussually do if VS are able to get haven 2-0 for sure

#38
dapada
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County [#35]

copium

not even a copium at this point, it's delusional kekw

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SpaceX2120
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jajajaja [#24]

HAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"VS LOST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TOUGHEST GROUP"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 AND FNATIC FANS LAUGHING HARD BRO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

C9 qualified from LCQ and the rosters were newly built
Fnatic has not played since iceland

and youre saying that like they were not having a tough match too

just accept the fact that KR right now is like stax = 100% shittalk 0 skill

huh you make no sense VS are one of the best teams in Champs unlucky they lost but 11-1 to 13-11 in Ascent and 11-13 on breeze just shows C9 won based on the fact that leaf popped off yea xeppa had his moments and mitch but 90% was just leaf runing mid and getting 2 kills you are probably a SEN fan kekw

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DeluluGavin [#32]

well every region got some no-brain users... they are everywhere HAHA

I would not call Stax no brain man is to good this jajajaj kid just is to brain dead to understand also every team shit talks its all part of the fun experiece of esports this jajajaja kid dosent understand

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DeluluGavin
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SpaceX2120 [#40]

I would not call Stax no brain man is to good this jajajaj kid just is to brain dead to understand also every team shit talks its all part of the fun experiece of esports this jajajaja kid dosent understand

We juz gotta ignore this jajaja kid HAHA

#42
Marshal_D_Teach
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3rd?

EMEA > SEA > LATAM > NA > KR > BR > JP

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SpaceX2120 [#36]

I am a VS fan as well I rewatched the VOD the IGLin in today's game was questinable not saying Stax is a bad igl just saying some decisions were questionable I VS were also whiffiIng I feel like there was also some miscomunication but amazing comeaback on Ascent 11-1 to 13-10 but VS would smoke any SEA team like FS wich they did Vission Strikers Is winning a International LAN next year for sure

I really think VS just has such a lack of experience and the comps and stuff with kayo have honestly been their downfall at lan. Along with that RB is not the same player on lan as he is online.

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