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tv0rusluke
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What do the TSS players think they are gonna do if they ascend
I don't even wanna hate but 4/5 players have been Furia rejects at a point
Like being removed from a good team is understandable but getting removed from furia must be a new standard

The only player on that team who should be in T1 is dgzin

Still crazy that he was kicked for a mediocre player like Virtyy

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catch a fat paycheck maybe?

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the better team wins and goes to VCT, why does it matter if they are all rookies or ex-furia or any team?

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liffey [#3]

the better team wins and goes to VCT, why does it matter if they are all rookies or ex-furia or any team?

1- they won't be winning ascension
2- it would just be another 2G replay maybe a bit better

Even if they somehow win (<10% chance) does not mean they deserve it

We have seen so many fluke ascension wins at this point

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tv0rusluke [#4]

1- they won't be winning ascension
2- it would just be another 2G replay maybe a bit better

Even if they somehow win (<10% chance) does not mean they deserve it

We have seen so many fluke ascension wins at this point

what are you? A psychic? It's how the game works friend, the team that wins ascension goes to vct, i don't know what you want.

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tv0rusluke [#4]

1- they won't be winning ascension
2- it would just be another 2G replay maybe a bit better

Even if they somehow win (<10% chance) does not mean they deserve it

We have seen so many fluke ascension wins at this point

if they win they deserve it. get better ig lmao

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liffey [#5]

what are you? A psychic? It's how the game works friend, the team that wins ascension goes to vct, i don't know what you want.

You clearly don't get it

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tv0rusluke [#7]

You clearly don't get it

i do not, because it doesn't make any sense, you are barking at the wrong tree.

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foythvlr [#6]

if they win they deserve it. get better ig lmao

Br0zil does not deserve another org in T1
It would degrade the already low quality of NA Valorant

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tv0rusluke [#4]

1- they won't be winning ascension
2- it would just be another 2G replay maybe a bit better

Even if they somehow win (<10% chance) does not mean they deserve it

We have seen so many fluke ascension wins at this point

if furia beat a team in vct, they would be the worst team in vct no? that team would be envy/tsm/whoever else they beat to win ascension. so that team would deserve it even less

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ggd12345 [#10]

if furia beat a team in vct, they would be the worst team in vct no? that team would be envy/tsm/whoever else they beat to win ascension. so that team would deserve it even less

Fluke wins exist

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tv0rusluke [#9]

Br0zil does not deserve another org in T1
It would degrade the already low quality of NA Valorant

maybe NA should get better then

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foythvlr [#12]

maybe NA should get better then

They clearly owned Brazil
The only country that is holding down VCT Americas rn is Brazil

MIBR decent
Loud chokers
Furia terrorism as always
2G* irrelevant while it lasted

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tv0rusluke [#11]

Fluke wins exist

i do get you tho, like 100% vct would have been better if m80 won last year. i really really hope brazil does not win another spot. but the team still performed well in that case

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tv0rusluke [#13]

They clearly owned Brazil
The only country that is holding down VCT Americas rn is Brazil

MIBR decent
Loud chokers
Furia terrorism as always
2G* irrelevant while it lasted

NA was carried by skuba which clearly has brazilian genes

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honestly, so far every team in ascension looked like hot garbage, so it wont change anything, whoever ascends will be 12th in americas anyway

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Considering past failures like its something the players can never go trough is really something i dislike, sometimes players that had horrendous performance on x team get on team Y and with time and less pressure they evolve, its not 100% or a science, but i trully believe they are worth a shot

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ggd12345 [#14]

i do get you tho, like 100% vct would have been better if m80 won last year. i really really hope brazil does not win another spot. but the team still performed well in that case

yall only argument against brazilian teams is "They are bronzilians so if they won, it was a fluke NA superior kekw limão" still crying about las year ascension i hope an NA win this time so yall can stop crying.

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tantanzin [#18]

yall only argument against brazilian teams is "They are bronzilians so if they won, it was a fluke NA superior kekw limão" still crying about las year ascension i hope an NA win this time so yall can stop crying.

vct americas 2025 rankings:
average points by NA teams: (26+7+20+9+6+6)/6 = 12.3
average points by non-NA teams: (9+7+4+2+1+0)/6 = 3.8
that "7" in NA are world champions, btw. and LATAM (5.5) is carrying brazil (3) in the non-NA point rankings.
i'm sick of every fucking match in americas between NA and non-NA being boring because brazilian teams minus aspas get LITERALLY NO WINS except against other brazil teams, and one instance of loud beating lev. brazil should have 2 spots so they can stack the best players onto them, and actually be competitive. 12.3 vs 3.8 isn't even funny anymore.

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ggd12345 [#19]

vct americas 2025 rankings:
average points by NA teams: (26+7+20+9+6+6)/6 = 12.3
average points by non-NA teams: (9+7+4+2+1+0)/6 = 3.8
that "7" in NA are world champions, btw. and LATAM (5.5) is carrying brazil (3) in the non-NA point rankings.
i'm sick of every fucking match in americas between NA and non-NA being boring because brazilian teams minus aspas get LITERALLY NO WINS except against other brazil teams, and one instance of loud beating lev. brazil should have 2 spots so they can stack the best players onto them, and actually be competitive. 12.3 vs 3.8 isn't even funny anymore.

Yeah i'm aware that NA teams have been dominating americas this has nothing to do with what i just said. I'm just saying that when NA win it means "NA is better" and when NA loses it means "It was a fluke" you guys just cant accept that sometimes the NA team is not the better bunch of sore losers.

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tantanzin [#20]

Yeah i'm aware that NA teams have been dominating americas this has nothing to do with what i just said. I'm just saying that when NA win it means "NA is better" and when NA loses it means "It was a fluke" you guys just cant accept that sometimes the NA team is not the better bunch of sore losers.

literally where did i say that lmfao. reply to the other guy not me dumbass. also last years ascension is the only case where it obviously WAS a fluke because the group stage proved it. and i STILL DIDNT CALL IT A FLUKE i just said m80 winning would have been BETTER. bronzilian more like stupidilian

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ggd12345 [#21]

literally where did i say that lmfao. reply to the other guy not me dumbass. also last years ascension is the only case where it obviously WAS a fluke because the group stage proved it. and i STILL DIDNT CALL IT A FLUKE i just said m80 winning would have been BETTER. bronzilian more like stupidilian

saying that m80 would have been better is the same as saying it was a fluke, plus you literally agreed with the other dumbass, but expecting an american to use his brain is too much i guess, my bad.

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tantanzin [#22]

saying that m80 would have been better is the same as saying it was a fluke, plus you literally agreed with the other dumbass, but expecting an american to use his brain is too much i guess, my bad.

no, i'm saying m80 winning would have been better FOR VCT. see my previous comment "brazil should have 2 spots so they can stack the best players onto them, and actually be competitive". even brazil fans should want FEWER slots so that they can actually be more competitive. i literally said "vct would have been better". "better" is an adjective that is modifying the noun "vct", NOT the noun "m80".

and no, i did not agree with the fluke comment i said i understand his sentiment about disliking brazil teams. do you know what "i get you" means? i didn't say "i agree with this specific comment". just because you don't understand english doesn't mean you can re-interpret my messages and call me stupid.

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ggd12345 [#23]

no, i'm saying m80 winning would have been better FOR VCT. see my previous comment "brazil should have 2 spots so they can stack the best players onto them, and actually be competitive". even brazil fans should want FEWER slots so that they can actually be more competitive. i literally said "vct would have been better". "better" is an adjective that is modifying the noun "vct", NOT the noun "m80".

and no, i did not agree with the fluke comment i said i understand his sentiment about disliking brazil teams. do you know what "i get you" means? i didn't say "i agree with this specific comment". just because you don't understand english doesn't mean you can re-interpret my messages and call me stupid.

No, we should not. Brazil has talent to field 4 or 5 competitive teams our orgs just sucks on doing that. we want as many spots as we can get and the m80 part does not make sense, a team weaker than 2g would have been better for the tier 1 in general? Acting like any team with 5 americans would be better than all of the non NA teams in VTC and the other regions dont have enough talent is just extreme bias. if a SA team win ascension they deserve it.

My comment about being sore loses was not just about you but about NA fans in general all of you say the same shit about that ascension and i'm 100% sure that if any non NA team win this ascension the same narrative will start again. Have a nice day.

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I don’t get the hate on pxs, he was a good sub for 2g, and he shows up well in the solid games, bilingual as well is a huge asset for a BR player. Raafa and kon4n will just get replaced and havoc is just either going to kill 2 or throw the round

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tantanzin [#25]

No, we should not. Brazil has talent to field 4 or 5 competitive teams our orgs just sucks on doing that. we want as many spots as we can get and the m80 part does not make sense, a team weaker than 2g would have been better for the tier 1 in general? Acting like any team with 5 americans would be better than all of the non NA teams in VTC and the other regions dont have enough talent is just extreme bias. if a SA team win ascension they deserve it.

My comment about being sore loses was not just about you but about NA fans in general all of you say the same shit about that ascension and i'm 100% sure that if any non NA team win this ascension the same narrative will start again. Have a nice day.

eh, i hope you're right and eventually the orgs pick better rosters. they're letting down the whole image of brazil if so, because me and many others believe brazil shouldn't have as many spots, and i'll be waiting for proof otherwise

i suppose since roster changes exist, i'm saying that an na team would have been better for the balance than 2g, even if they won ascension. and if you are using one match to determine who deserves to be in t1, wouldn't the furia substitute roster be a better choice over 2g? but you raise a good point, especially with performing at clutch moments and all that, 2g deserved to make it for sure. have a nice day as well

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