where does tenz place all time? he had 2 shit years and 2 great years so maybe top 25 at best??
where does tenz place all time? he had 2 shit years and 2 great years so maybe top 25 at best??
9wntr [#3]top 5
feel like its too high considering sen didnt make internationals for 2 years
and it was kinda his fault cause he didnt really know how to play any character well at pro play until ue picked up omen
inuis [#5]feel like its too high considering sen didnt make internationals for 2 years
and it was kinda his fault cause he didnt really know how to play any character well at pro play until ue picked up omen
top 7 maybe
but d3ffonatsly top 7
9wntr [#6]top 7 maybe
but d3ffonatsly top 7
D3ffo and nAts mentioned 🗣🗣🗣
Divine_Thunder [#10]bro has 2 trophies
"top 25??" LMAO
and what happened in 2022/3
having two of the least competitive trophies in val history doesnt really matter as much as it seems imo
fr0ster0p [#9]do we also consider his power to change game from clips
no cause half the credits go to aloneval
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#8]D3ffo and nAts mentioned 🗣🗣🗣
i was n2bf-baiting w ts
inuis [#12]and what happened in 2022/3
having two of the least competitive trophies in val history doesnt really matter as much as it seems imo
fuck is this argument
its not like sen was a superteam in 22/23.
Solid top 10. You'd have to debate a lot to put him in top 5. Ignoring aspas and chron, I wouldnt put him above players like leo nats f0rsaken or even boaster and meteor if we're talking all time. Switching to omen basically salvaged his legacy from being a top 20 player
Divine_Thunder [#19]fuck is this argument
its not like sen was a superteam in 22/23.
i think it was in 2023 LMAO
xineFso [#2]Higher than chr0nicle and statpas
bro is getting downfragged for telling the truth
Divine_Thunder [#19]fuck is this argument
its not like sen was a superteam in 22/23.
sen was 100% made out to be a trophy contender team in 2023 and 2022 they still had high expectations at the start of the year
Just_some_loser [#22]Solid top 10. You'd have to debate a lot to put him in top 5. Ignoring aspas and chron, I wouldnt put him above players like leo nats f0rsaken or even boaster and meteor if we're talking all time. Switching to omen basically salvaged his legacy from being a top 20 player
na meteor has to be higher than tenz. back to back masters winner + mvp in one of them and second highest rated in the other.
Tenz- 1 regional win + 2 international wins.
Meteor- 2 regional wins + 2 international wins.
plus meteor did it against better opposition both times. TH and G2 who looked in prime form at that time.
while tenz won against a geng that had it's first international appearance and agaisnt fnc who "at that time" were known chokers like tsm
Mingu [#25]bro is getting downfragged for telling the truth
how is a plumber and no competition mickey better OAT than players that have consistently made top placements and titles at serious high stakes events both within the same year AND back to back SEVERAL times across the game's history?
inuis [#5]feel like its too high considering sen didnt make internationals for 2 years
and it was kinda his fault cause he didnt really know how to play any character well at pro play until ue picked up omen
In 2023 he was definitely a big part of the problem but not in 2022. The team was just a shitshow but he was good
Divine_Thunder [#27]this has to be ragebait
tenz zekken sacy pancada isnt a superteam?
Just_some_loser [#22]Solid top 10. You'd have to debate a lot to put him in top 5. Ignoring aspas and chron, I wouldnt put him above players like leo nats f0rsaken or even boaster and meteor if we're talking all time. Switching to omen basically salvaged his legacy from being a top 20 player
i guess thats fair, maybe i underrated him quite a bit which might just be his takes pissing me off
inuis [#31]tenz zekken sacy pancada isnt a superteam?
If you evaluate them by the expectations on them relative to the roles they played, then no. Like for example, if you’re saying pancada is one of the best itw on smokes, then that makes sense, but on sentinel he was living by name brand
Good_ping_Bad_aim [#28]na meteor has to be higher than tenz. back to back masters winner + mvp in one of them and second highest rated in the other.
Tenz- 1 regional win + 2 international wins.
Meteor- 2 regional wins + 2 international wins.
plus meteor did it against better opposition both times. TH and G2 who looked in prime form at that time.
while tenz won against a geng that had it's first international appearance and agaisnt fnc who "at that time" were known chokers like tsm
Meteor was the Shanghai mvp*, there was no ratings for Shanghai but he clearly outplayed texture
Effluxi [#29]how is a plumber and no competition mickey better OAT than players that have consistently made top placements and titles at serious high stakes events both within the same year AND back to back SEVERAL times across the game's history?
do aspas and chronicle have the power to change the game how they like or ask for new monitors and desks
SENfns [#37]do aspas and chronicle have the power to change the game how they like or ask for new monitors and desks
tbh aspas probably would if he wasnt so socially anxious
JonahPork [#34]If you evaluate them by the expectations on them relative to the roles they played, then no. Like for example, if you’re saying pancada is one of the best itw on smokes, then that makes sense, but on sentinel he was living by name brand
still a superteam on paper just a terribly built one
Good_ping_Bad_aim [#28]na meteor has to be higher than tenz. back to back masters winner + mvp in one of them and second highest rated in the other.
Tenz- 1 regional win + 2 international wins.
Meteor- 2 regional wins + 2 international wins.
plus meteor did it against better opposition both times. TH and G2 who looked in prime form at that time.
while tenz won against a geng that had it's first international appearance and agaisnt fnc who "at that time" were known chokers like tsm
while tenz won against a geng that had it's first international appearance
so what happened at champs when he played geng?
undoubtably top 10. i would say top 5 just because of his impact to the game
Good_ping_Bad_aim [#28]na meteor has to be higher than tenz. back to back masters winner + mvp in one of them and second highest rated in the other.
Tenz- 1 regional win + 2 international wins.
Meteor- 2 regional wins + 2 international wins.
plus meteor did it against better opposition both times. TH and G2 who looked in prime form at that time.
while tenz won against a geng that had it's first international appearance and agaisnt fnc who "at that time" were known chokers like tsm
uhh? thats what i said too brodigy, literally said id pick meteor over tenz
SENfns [#37]do aspas and chronicle have the power to change the game how they like or ask for new monitors and desks
literally yes they just haven't
Just_some_loser [#48]uhh? thats what i said too brodigy, literally said id pick meteor over tenz
ah yeah i brainfarted at that time.