There is no way people are actually trying to justify a bug use in Champions nobody but Vivo Keyd is in fault for this situation so maybe instead embarrassing your own region accept the fact that you lost the match and move on
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in particular, I had already accepted the victory given to Acend, but there are some points that make me believe that the punishment doesn't make sense.
1 - apparently it wasn't in the rulebook (I don't know if it's true)
2.1 - the game between SEN vs FUR was paused for 15 min for a possible glitch, the judges were paying attention.
2.2 - In the game between VK x ACE, the camera is used 6 times, wouldn't there be a referee at the time to pause the match and apply a penalty in the middle of the match?
2.3- the first time you used jhow, all the broadcast chat noticed the use of the bug, why didn't the judges stop the game?
I don't know if this makes any sense to you, but that's why some Brazilians are disgusted with the punishment
It wasn't specifically mentioned in the rule book but https://twitter.com/ACE_Krimson/status/1467109773229404160
Giants were in a single elim bracket. It's not rational to give the same punishment in the same manner for a totally different situation. If they applied the same punishment to Giants as here, they would've been eliminated from VCT. Whereas VK still have the lower bracket to qualify through.
Now I still think rematch for Breeze is the optimum solution. But whether that can be arranged is another question altogether.
Yes they didn't specifically mentioned Breeze, but..
"If you find something where you are not sure if it's a bug or clever use of a mechanic, please check with the administration if it is an exploit/bug before using it in the match. Subsequent punishments may also be possible."
"Cameras: Cameras may only be placed in places where they can be seen and destroyed by the opponents."
Source: https://www.vct.gg/statics/rules
Because it wasn't pointed out to the refs during the game. The same thing happened with the Giants cam exploit, they only made the ruling after the game when players complained publicly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/oaxkpq/game_breaking_cypher_cam_abuse_in_vct/
on ur 2.1 point. even if judges are paying attention it doesnt mean they can catch everything. I didnt notice the bug use while I was watching for example.
2.2 as previously stated, they didnt catch the bug at the time of the game. neither did Acend for that matter.
2.3 im not sure what you mean by this but, i dont think they referee(s) are looking at the streams chat while doing their job.
I understand your points.
I didn't mean that the judges look at the chat, maybe I expressed myself wrong, my point is: the casual chat noticed, and the judges who work in the match don't? shouldn't their attention be doubled?
if the judges didn't notice it before, it doesn't make sense to punish later.
I agree that using the bug was wrong, but Riotgames didn't handle the matter in the best way
actually what the fuck? fixed or not, you can not use this bug you're not supposed to be right? as a pro player how the fuck you can miss that? the only problem with it, riot should've taken an action when it's just used, in the middle of the match .. what if it was an unknown camera bug, as a pro player you must know that it's still not allowed cuz it's a damn bug and this time it was clearly known bug that giants penalized before .. what kind of fucking brain you guys have to not think about this, it's not about bug fixed or not .. it's just not allowed to use anyway damn ..
how in earth would you think that a pro would not know that is an exploit, to see through the walls because of a texture bug, especially when there was a team that penalized before by the Riot's itself .. fuck the players, what kind of organizations do not know this happened before and penalized, and allow their player does it during the biggest tourney 6 damn round in a row .. Riot did a shit here, and the team thought yeah we can keep doing it, there is no other explanation when there is a damn coach watching whole shit .. btw, you're the one must use his brain my friend ..
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