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eszett

Facts: What Riot Games do in League of Legends competitive is awesome (except the region block, but ok), but man, in Valorant i think they are clowns managing a game. I could stay here all night talking about the game failures per se, but let's talk about this champions itself:

A serie of glitches that were not fixed
Sufficient time to fix
Okay, the VK deserved to be punished, but don't you guys think that Riot could do this by better ways? Neither riot referee noticed that it was a glitch lmao they took at least 8 hours to solve a problem of the worst way possible: giving to acend a serie that vk won in ability. Riot could AT LEAST do a rematch with a penalty or have warned vk during the match

(sorry if there are some english mistakes, i tried my best)

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valo is riots B game , they need to put more on valo ;/

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They make less money from their B game so they care less about B game

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I can't speak specifically for how the programming would work on Riot's end, but it's possible that the cam glitch can be involved with geometry up there that, if changed, could affect line ups or has code that functions with how hitboxes on objects work where one change could affect how any cam is placed. It's a lot easier as a game studio to just ban people that use exploits like that and ban it in pro matches as long as it doesn't literally break the game.

I agree that it's a total fuck up for the referees to not see the bug, but I don't think it's fair to blame devs.

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eszett

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yep, but that was an incompetence of riot games keeping a glitch that was cause of penalty before (x10 case)

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Tooker

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Perhaps, but in that case, I'd call it grave incompetence for VK for using the bug considering there have already been two competitive rulings on it. And again, there are a lot of scenarios in which attempting to fix bugs like this could mess with essential mechanics in the game to where trying to fix them ends up creating more problems than it solves. It's hard to say without being on the Riot end, but I don't think it's fair to jump to a conclusion like that.

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eszett

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okay, i agree, in parts

it was an incompetence by vk, that's a fact, but also keeping a glitch for at least 6 months, and do not add it to the list is also an incompetence
do you really think that fix this glitch would remove some mechanic of the game?

again: i'm not saying that vk is right

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Tooker

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Well I mean think about it. How would you prevent someone from putting a cam up there, would you add a box that says cypher cams can't be put up there. I can think of a really easy way to do this in UE4 (which I'm pretty sure Val is made in) but only if they have the blueprints set up a certain way. I just don't think it's fair to assume that the fix to this would be easy, or more worthwhile then assigning devs to work on new features for maps and characters.

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According to one of VK players, it wasn't in the rulebook.

If someone was incompetent in this whole scenario, it was riot by not including this one AFTER 2 PUNISHMENTS.

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Tooker

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I kind of agree with this, but I don't think that a bug not being in the rules gives you carte blanche to exploit it. Like if someone found new a new bug that wasn't in the rules, does that give them carte blanche to use it?

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werZy

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I'm not making excuses, i don't think VK knew it was forbidden but they should have.

I just think riot's way to handle these situations is terrible. Because of the example you gave me, i think there must be a rigid procedure followed in all cases, not the mess they made by pausing furia's game for nothing then letting VK play and punishing later.

Also, the way they stated the punishment was so dumb and opens space for even more controversy on the future, by "giving acend 1 round for each time vk used it, +1 to compensate from economy damage", instead making it a direct forfeit. KEKW

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I totally agree. The ruling was fair enough, since consistency and such (the logic with the rounds was awful tho), but Riot DEFINITELY could've handled this better.

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Larry

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They could have handled it way better and don’t forget Furia got screwed over as well with a 20 min tech pause.

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Because they said the jett jump its a bug ... Like the cypher camera, but against Acend they didn't make the tech pause. Why?

WHY, RIOT?

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KatZ

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They should have not given Acend the win over VK, why not penalize or remake their match instead of giving auto win to Acend. It's an exploit that shouldn't be used I get it, but did Rito specify it in the rules ? No. Then why this decision ? FeelsBad for VK hope they dominate in lower brackets.