PACIFIC EVALUATION (PREDICTIONS)

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WatsomN

I know there's been a lot of discussion whether KOI got kicked due to performances + engagement or not, however let's assume thats the case and im gonna review Pacific Teams and their fate on franchising

SAFE NO MATTER WHAT
T1
DRX
PRX

Should be Fine
GENG
Zeta

SAFE FOR NOW
RRQ (Thanks to their result, they should be safe for now)
TS (Despite losing 500k followers from their facebook page, and poor performance this year, they still managed to be #4 bundle sales across pacific, and from what i hear still gain lots of viewer from co-streamer)
Talon (i know there's been a financial issue recently, but i think them as vct partners should do fine for now, unless their issue keeps melting away)

RELEGATE
DFM (dont get me wrong, just swap the partnership from DFM to Crazy Racoon)
GE (did all they can, even korean x ph roster, still couldnt brought themselves to even a playoff, and losing large amount of audience due to 0 representation)

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Jayde

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Geng one up zeta one down and then swap with dfm

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merciless-pity8989-89

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zeta is a bigger org + if dfm gets kicked out, then Zeta can just take their best players.

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DFM just partnered with CR for the franchised spot no? at least that's what I remember

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tserc

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did TS actually lose 500k followers???

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WatsomN

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ya something like that, 300-500k i forgot

it was 1.2 and went down to 800-900? now it's 1.1 mil again

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tserc

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I think it's probably some follower bots

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propredicter

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doubt its bot

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tserc

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how did it even go down if it wasn't bots? was it bc of the dota roster

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propredicter

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if they werent choking everytime they wouldnt lose followers thats for sure. also it wasnt instantly -500k it happened overtime

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WatsomN

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crazy numbers

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Verstepping33

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gen.g should be ultra safe too

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Tempest24

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ge aren't getting booted vro

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WatsomN

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what do they bring to the pacific table now? *compared to other teams

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sh1lll

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a representative from india i guess idk

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WatsomN

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0 indian player or coaching staff on the team btw

just manager

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sh1lll

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yea ik its stupid as shit. if anything they should have seperated india like they did with china considering they have the 1st or 2nd highest pop with china i cant remember which one. OR combine india + china. GE as an org have no reason to exist under india representative tho lol i agree

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Tempest24

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the difference is that China have a healthy competition pool and great teams unlike India

no shade btw

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sh1lll

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yea i dont follow apac let alone india so i wouldnt know but just saying it from a population standpoint

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Jayde

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There arent enough people who play games on a high level (except in pubg)

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Tempest24

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it will get better after val mobile launches globally

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Jayde

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That league would be worse than 2023 china.

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DBStudios

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They are the only Indian representatives and they also host events too

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Tempest24

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even though their results are ahh , india are one of the biggest markets intw and with val mobile coming out soon, it will only grow and it will be best for riot to keep and indian/ south Asian org to hook that market

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propredicter

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people forgot this shit is a business

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Bearmans2

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Rrq should be safe no matter what. They have a lot of fans, the CEO sometimes wp their games, and so far they have done 0 shady business (bcs the org is goddamn rich) and only 1 drama. Not sure about the bundle sales tho. Performance wise they always get to at least top 6-5 regionally in each season.

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sh1lll

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whats the 1 drama?

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Tempest24

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the flipzj1der incidents ig

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Vend3tta

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Fl1pEgg

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Bearmans2

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Fl1pz vs tenten.
More importantly, instead of de-escalating the situation, social media guy that time pour more fuel to the problem.

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WatsomN

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this aged like milk, just now RRQ Ceo getting backlashes from his mlbb co-stream, saying "son of a b17ch" (in bad terms) in Indonesian to one of the player.

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SleepingSnorlax

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That’s a different game bro RRQ still hasn’t done anything specific in Val to have problems

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WatsomN

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ceo problem = all games problem

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Bearmans2

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Yeah the scale tipped a bit but, still kinda safe imo.

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SleepingSnorlax

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I don’t think removing any of the sea org or even GE it will be the stupid to remove any one of them when Val mobile is on the horizon if riot are smart enough the opportunity is so big atp

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GodAwfulGod

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I think switch GenG and DRX, GenG won a masters there is almost no way they are getting removed while DRX is know for getting 5-6th at champs after either not making any other international or doing poorly at them.

Also DFM over ZETA currently. DFM at least look like they are improving and becoming more competitive, the same cannot be said about Zeta who look like a shell of themselves without Laz and haven't been relevant since their 3rd place run.

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grvt

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They'll replace ge with another indian org + ascension/master india
Somehow find spot for falcon in apac

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9wntr

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team falcon Vega male roster
absolute cinema

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SoobNaibot

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safe no matter what should be GenG, T1 and PRX ( these 3 are masters winner) show some respect
move zeta and TS to relegate, DRX is also not that safe, while the others are fine and in a correct order

other apac tier 2 orgs deserve franchise spots rather than these frauds TS zeta GE DFM

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fictional

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RRQ probably one of the safest rn. constant performance competitive wise and viewer wise. they just have to show up on international stage