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Koi situation is kinda diabolical

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Two_Percent

Ok so riot kicked them out with a DAYS notice bc they were underperforming, werent selling skins, and not making content. Like the first reaction is to be like yes this is fair but I really dont think that in the contracts that the teams signed in like 2023 said that at any point before 2027 riot could just hit the ban hammer bc a team/org wasnt literally good enough. All things considered, I disliked koi and their team building approach a lot, but its not like they were embezzling the funds from val, not trying to build a winning roster at all (they had multiple mid season rebuilds, and constantly switched players), or had any big controversies (only rumours that the org might have internal issues, but those were very vague rumours). Idk all I can really think rn is that riot actually has a lot more control than they say they do or at least they imply, and seeing this is kinda worrying bc esports as it is is such a vulnerable scene, so them doing this as a power move essentially can potentially scare off a lot of orgs. Idk this is just a rant post and maybe behind the scenes koi was shit org and all and I'm talking outta my ass, but on the surface at least it looks pretty unfair by riot, even if koi was a pretty shit team that didnt do anything.

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ScoutViolet
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As I said in multiple forums, this is the crap coming from the koi owner's mouth. Wait until u hear riot's side of the story. If ur team just got removed, I would be spreading lies to try to make riot look bad. I have little doubt that there was some sort of clause in the CONFIDENTIAL contract that koi should not be leaking that koi breached, and they are trying to look good by making it seem unreasonable. Never trust a 1-sided bias

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Oh word I just saw the riot post and it didnt look like to me that koi did anything actively to breach the contract (unlike the bleed situation), and seeing the owners response really only validated that. I watched the tmv video and went to reddit a bit and it really only seemed like koi was just shit lol and thats why they got removed. Idk hopefully more details get released and the situation can clear up, bc if they actually did breach a contract then yeah ig they deserved to go

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i hope more details can be released too, but obviously I don't know the contract details, so I'm sure there's clauses that I'm not aware of. Heck, maybe their management is slandering other management or riot and that's not allowed (since it's on par with something they would do). I mean, g2 lost partnership slot because their owner was partying with the tate brothers, maybe koi management did something similar.

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At least g2 situation happened before anybody signed a contract, but I hope at least it can be disclosed what specifically koi did to breach a contract that got them kicked

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Aminbg02
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ibai said on his twitch that there was a clause for him to watch part ythe koi matches and he stopped streaming and that only koi had that clause

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Two_Percent
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oh damn idk that

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SnorlaxEnjoyer
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I mean not meeting contractual obligations which even Ibai confirmed. not being profitable/selling well in a system where Riot is giving u money to spend to be Profitable/create a good project. Then the cherry on top being blaming shitty management for roster failures to then say oh 'We are gonna do it how we want it to be for next year, four years later is crazy work". Idk man

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There are many clauses in the contract for partnership (not that I know all the details). I know for a fact that some of them have to do with co-streaming, and I heard they were violating some co-streaming requirements. Not being profitable is not a reason to be removed, as well as being bad. I'm pretty confident it was a contract breach that ibai is not being honest on.

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oh yeah for sure. All I'm saying is looking at the bigger pictures these things that I stated shows that there's more than meets the eye that we don't know about and probably won't know about. Ibai sat there for 10 mins victimizing himself

#9
ItzzHunter
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Gonna be so real, the only team turning a profit in all of VCT rn is Sentinels

#10
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hey the boys at 100T got crazy merch that consistently sells well man. The merch looks great too

#12
ItzzHunter
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But 100ts costs of players, staff, and other things cost more than their revenue

#14
copiumprxfan
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id say potentially prx aswell

#15
TM06Nick
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I would read Gravens post as it provides much more objective insight and isn't as biased as Ibais posts

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