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#1
Yanko
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It should be only 1 team that qualify over that and If I'm being honest it should be none teams players coaches change through the year some teams they become better some become worsen even if they don't change nothing so it's trash system

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Tsikhamani
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One team is really good but not 2

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how about this:
winner of stage 2 will qualify to champs and the 4 teams with highest champs points will play a double elim qualifiers where 3 will qualify 1 gets eliminated? 🤔

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Realistically coming top 4, in stage 2 already gives you an advantage over teams who have performed consistently throughout the year before falling off as stage 2 playoffs begin. If a team is still unable to catch up, to teams ahead of them in champ points despite coming top 4, it shows just how bad that team was for the rest of the year. Those teams don't deserve to go champs if they're that bad for the other 2/3 of the year.

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Its not trash system lil bro

Imagine T1 not going to champs after winning bangkok i mean they are so ass rn but it doesnt matter, they deserve to play this event after winning that

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Lenei
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imo it’s not a bad system but they should not use it on a game like Valorant where meta always changing.

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Yanko
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MamenTricas [#5]

Its not trash system lil bro

Imagine T1 not going to champs after winning bangkok i mean they are so ass rn but it doesnt matter, they deserve to play this event after winning that

Huh they look horrible them winning bangkok should not determine if they go to champs what's the point of watching the playoffs games there no fun if a team is eliminated and you know they still qualify and in mibr case they didn't even make playoffs there's no enjoyment of watching playoffs really unless every spot matter

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Yanko
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Lenei [#6]

imo it’s not a bad system but they should not use it on a game like Valorant where meta always changing.

It's horrible

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catNmouse
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Yanko [#7]

Huh they look horrible them winning bangkok should not determine if they go to champs what's the point of watching the playoffs games there no fun if a team is eliminated and you know they still qualify and in mibr case they didn't even make playoffs there's no enjoyment of watching playoffs really unless every spot matter

ig making top 4 in your region to qualify for champions is horrible now

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Lenei [#6]

imo it’s not a bad system but they should not use it on a game like Valorant where meta always changing.

if anything they should use it because the meta changes a lot
can't let a team who fluke off of one meta like the tejo meta at the end of the year gets to the premier tournament of the year

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MamenTricas
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Yanko [#7]

Huh they look horrible them winning bangkok should not determine if they go to champs what's the point of watching the playoffs games there no fun if a team is eliminated and you know they still qualify and in mibr case they didn't even make playoffs there's no enjoyment of watching playoffs really unless every spot matter

So what do you want bro, imagine a team who has won kickoff, first masters, stage 1, second masters

But no! They didnt reach top 4 on stage 2! So they dont qualify to champs 🤓

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TheHanaNoFuji [#10]

if anything they should use it because the meta changes a lot
can't let a team who fluke off of one meta like the tejo meta at the end of the year gets to the premier tournament of the year

What about who Change players lol the system is horrible you can't excuse it bro even if you even if your favourite team qualified like gx for example they changed players and they become significantly better

#13
1One1
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Should be this:
1 team from point
2 team from stage 2 grandfinal
1 team from LCQ for 6 teams based on point (not playoff stage 2)

#14
Galactc
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It's really not that bad there's a pattern with people who dislike it just say you have bias

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Yanko
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Galactc [#14]

It's really not that bad there's a pattern with people who dislike it just say you have bias

No I don't it's horrible in all honesty it made not wanting to watch the fnc game for example because they are qualified same with th same with g2 with Sen nothing on the line it's boring

#16
Dybala21
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Omg enough with the crying

#17
m4
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Best system hands down. People literally get paid thousands of dollars to sleep through meetings to come up with this stuff. We're just people on the internet.

#18
Yanko
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Dybala21 [#16]

Omg enough with the crying

I'm just pointing the fax for hope don't happen next year fax= isn't crying

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m4 [#17]

Best system hands down. People literally get paid thousands of dollars to sleep through meetings to come up with this stuff. We're just people on the internet.

Nah fax shout out to riot

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m4
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Yanko [#19]

Nah fax shout out to riot

Do we really have the quality plants, bookshelves and 90s toy memorabilia to show up to a Riot stand up video call? I don't think so.

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Yanko [#18]

I'm just pointing the fax for hope don't happen next year fax= isn't crying

People literally hate on MiBR because of this just so you know. The system isn't perfect I can agree but you can't call them undeserved just because they played bad in one tournament

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TDR3000
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TheHanaNoFuji [#10]

if anything they should use it because the meta changes a lot
can't let a team who fluke off of one meta like the tejo meta at the end of the year gets to the premier tournament of the year

and the reason why DRX qualified was tejo

#23
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Just get to top 2 buddy unlucky!

#24
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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dimmed [#4]

Realistically coming top 4, in stage 2 already gives you an advantage over teams who have performed consistently throughout the year before falling off as stage 2 playoffs begin. If a team is still unable to catch up, to teams ahead of them in champ points despite coming top 4, it shows just how bad that team was for the rest of the year. Those teams don't deserve to go champs if they're that bad for the other 2/3 of the year.

I think it's the other way around.

If a team can't reach top 3 in their own regional bracket, and they didn't get enough points to be first among the teams that also didn't get top 3, why should a better performance earlier in the year mean they're prepared to do well internationally?

Meanwhile, most of those teams that are "bad for the other 2/3 of the year" won't have the same roster as they did when they weren't getting results.

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MamenTricas [#5]

Its not trash system lil bro

Imagine T1 not going to champs after winning bangkok i mean they are so ass rn but it doesnt matter, they deserve to play this event after winning that

This isn't about T1 though. They're 3rd in points, so they'd make it even if there was just one spot to qualify via champs points

What the poster is suggesting would have BBL and Talon qualify over TH and DRX

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Dybala21 [#21]

People literally hate on MiBR because of this just so you know. The system isn't perfect I can agree but you can't call them undeserved just because they played bad in one tournament

mibr would've qualified even if there was only one spot via points, not two

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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#24]

I think it's the other way around.

If a team can't reach top 3 in their own regional bracket, and they didn't get enough points to be first among the teams that also didn't get top 3, why should a better performance earlier in the year mean they're prepared to do well internationally?

Meanwhile, most of those teams that are "bad for the other 2/3 of the year" won't have the same roster as they did when they weren't getting results.

I don't want to repeat myself but I already talked about it here
https://www.vlr.gg/540843/about-points/#9

#28
esenoh
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Marc_ [#3]

how about this:
winner of stage 2 will qualify to champs and the 4 teams with highest champs points will play a double elim qualifiers where 3 will qualify 1 gets eliminated? 🤔

this could be interesting, but I think that this system doesn't reward good stage 2 performances. I would tweak it a bit, top 2 of stage 2 make it, and then places 2-6 play double elimination qualifiers where 2 qual and 2 eliminated. Otherwise, I really like this idea!

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Point system just should be qualify for last chance qualifier. Top 3 each region on Stage 2 will go to Champions. Top 2 highest point beside top 3 stage each region will be compete in lcq for remaining champions slot.

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MamenTricas
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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#25]

This isn't about T1 though. They're 3rd in points, so they'd make it even if there was just one spot to qualify via champs points

What the poster is suggesting would have BBL and Talon qualify over TH and DRX

Why??? TH and DRX have been better than BBL and Talon for much of the season

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