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Cypher NEEDS A NERF

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#1
kenzokirko

This agent is too powerful

All the Cypher mains are gatekeeping this bs agent so it doesn't get nerfed
The value difference between Cypher and all other sentinels is too much
Shuts down all entries, NEEDS an Entire agent pick to counter it's abilities (Sova, Raze, Yoru)
No Agent should be so overpowered that you need to pick a certain agent to counter it.

Deadlock can be countered by Slow play
Killjoy can be countered by Entry duelists
Chamber can be countered by anything
Vyse can be countered by faking sites
Sage is Sage

but Cypher, if you don't have any agent to break his trips you're fked, your only choice is to go to the other site which is stacked with 4 people waiting to bust you.

RIOT NERF THIS AGENT

#2
termtermtermterm
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somebody updraft dashed into a trip one too many times huh

#4
kenzokirko
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Yeah no shit sherlock

#3
milflover92
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Have you tried playing kayo sova raze yoru jett waylay kj tejo omen or alternatively put a walkout smoke down and just.... break the trip that's on the entry of the site?

#6
milflover92
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I think if you don't apply basic comp theory to your game you deserve to lose if you can't come up with solutions or abuse gaps.

#8
midzera
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A lot of players just pick agents they enjoy regardless of if they are viable for the map. If they have good agent knowledge and can make the most of their abilities to be useful on the map, they deserve to win since they are individually providing a lot of value to the team. I will agree that people deserve to lose if they cannot come up with solutions. Just brute forcing against the problem is a one way route to losing.

#7
kenzokirko
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Yes sweetheart that's the point, you need to contribute an entire agent pick to counter cypher.

#9
milflover92
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I think if you don't got smokes or any of those agents in your arsenal... it's not really Cyphers fault you're losing to him

#5
midzera
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  • Counterpoint. Killjoy, Deadlock, Chamber and Vyse are countered by damaging abilities like Sova, Raze, Breach.
  • Cypher having different ways to be countered such as Omen and Yoru TP make him fairly balanced especially if teams spread the map (if you're talking about ranked, this is less likely to happen due to coordination)
  • Nobody is gatekeeping an agent since there are a dozen Cypher-only YouTubers who show a lot of incredible set-ups and explain that a lot of them are one-time use case since enemies will just target the utility with damaging abilities. Once Cypher loses his trips and camera, the player is dependent on positioning and lurks.
#10
danii1
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you might just be ass

#21
kenzokirko
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No, I'm Immortal 3 and this is a genuine crashout

#23
ekinchoyie
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send ur val tracker rn

#26
kenzokirko
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can't, this is my burner

#34
danii1
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and im a fucking billionaire

#11
Pototo
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make his trips un-retrievable....thats enough
otherwise he is pretty balanced..u just need to use ur brain against him...rather than rushing in blind n dying instantly

#12
gambzki
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all this yapping while vyse's kit clears cypher

#14
Pototo
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lmao no....maybe if u make her thorns retrievable.... then yeah

#17
gambzki
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20 seconds delay with molly? trip wall that's unbreakable? flash with info? ult that can take a whole site? are we joking here?

#19
milflover92
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thorns can stall for way longer than cypher trips though, and the stall time and power makes her great if you just hold a vine

#22
Pototo
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still i wouldnt say she clears...its very map dependant right now....i'd say they're equal

#29
Lordsalih
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the delay potential on vyse, and even fragging potential with the wall flash combo, u see it everywhere on vyse pro comps

#13
ekinchoyie
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He's not that overpowered. He's been in the game for long enough that everyone should know his trips by now. As a senti main myself, the other team learns your setup really quickly. Your point about needing an entire agent pick for cypher is false. Sova, raze, and yoru are good agents regardless of whether or not cypher is played on the other side. Also, with the added delay on the trips, it's not that hard to break his trips even if you run into it.

#15
BigBrainDays
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i mean.... cypher is literally a glass cannon, take out his utility, he's just a guy with a gun
If you cant take out util... I dont know what you expected

#16
propredicter
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best way to counter cypher in ranked is just to default to gain info then once you know where is cypher start walking to the opposite site

#24
kenzokirko
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Are you people not reading the entire post?
Most of you are just repeating questions for which I have already answered in the main post.

#18
Galactc
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He's ass try playing him yourself

#20
Z0vereign
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treachery toilet needs a nerf

#25
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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I agree he's annoying as shit but it really comes down to ranked teams being too stupid to counter him, and also trip sentinels should never have existed in this game to begin with

#27
Lordsalih
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1 good initiator player and its over (im a sova fade main), sova shockdart, good timing with ur duelist to break traps with the prowler, a kayo knife, all that counters cypher setups and forces him to play retake or do an aggressive play

#28
m4
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I hope you didn't write that all out. I can help you speed it up next time.

#30
Effluxi
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about a year too late to be calling Cypher broken icl 😭

#31
dvevdveveve
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THATS WHAT I BEEN SAYING BOUT MEGA KNIGHT fuckass wannabe I'm unique fkers r like js put that in ur deck combod with that to counter it blabla NO? IDW FK UP N CHANGE MY DECK FOR ONE BALL HANDED FATASS

#32
kenzokirko
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A fellow Clash royale player, nice to meet you.

#33
SudokuDude
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He got a slight nerf but we'll see. Ever since the trapwire got a distance buff, he became a top pick. Probably why Sage got a buff.

#35
mulyondoindon
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" [Agent Name] needs to get nerfed" - every valorant player after they lost to players who actually learn the agent

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