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reason why views are low from Champion

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s1mple_valorant_killer69

-people that spam !drop !claim get their drop after 1 hour
-teams arent popular enough
-people expecting stomp after first series
-so many delays and stalling for just 1 series
-people only come for opening and closing ceremony for riot production

thats all i can found so far but atleast Day 1 2/3 game series is competitive and not a stomp. this valorant lan would be fun to watch even if cant beat cs peak major viewership

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its the first day brotha wait until playoffs and wait until sen liquid

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JettOnetap
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Csgo major had like 300k avg viewership in groups

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Hidden_Name
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Wait for Furia vs Secret Grand Finals

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SidEx07
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JettOnetap [#3]

Csgo major had like 300k avg viewership in groups

exactly

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ShadowisBAD [#2]

its the first day brotha wait until playoffs and wait until sen liquid

nops asians need to sleep by then, it wont cross more than 500k

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JettOnetap [#3]

Csgo major had like 300k avg viewership in groups

It also had only 1.3 million in the Semifinals. Finals was the only relevant game in the entire major as people wanted NAVI to win and witness S1mple lift the PGL trophy.

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ShadowisBAD
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A_Silent_Fart [#6]

nops asians need to sleep by then, it wont cross more than 500k

SEN games gets alot of viewers , Liquid too, so those 2 games might not be good but decent viewership
and Aguero buff

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Hidden_Name [#4]

Wait for Furia vs Secret Grand Finals

welp, there goes all viewership besides brazil

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s1nek
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reasons why the views are low:
-is the first in history

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VeLooZ
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Reason why the View low because Riot make a system Watch party(Drop enabled).
if there is no watch party. so might be official valorant Twitch account has high view with Drop enabled only at official.
example Official Valorant : 200K Views
Watch Party Shroud : 40K
Kyedae : 40K
Jonas : 40K
if sum 200+ 40+40+40

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USCK
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It wasn’t low? It avraged more than cs major group stages

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USCK
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VeLooZ [#11]

Reason why the View low because Riot make a system Watch party(Drop enabled).
if there is no watch party. so might be official valorant Twitch account has high view with Drop enabled only at official.
example Official Valorant : 200K Views
Watch Party Shroud : 40K
Kyedae : 40K
Jonas : 40K
if sum 200+ 40+40+40

And tarik with 20k

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VeLooZ [#11]

Reason why the View low because Riot make a system Watch party(Drop enabled).
if there is no watch party. so might be official valorant Twitch account has high view with Drop enabled only at official.
example Official Valorant : 200K Views
Watch Party Shroud : 40K
Kyedae : 40K
Jonas : 40K
if sum 200+ 40+40+40

You're forgetting streams in other languages too...and also YouTube

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qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn
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Blazieboy [#7]

It also had only 1.3 million in the Semifinals. Finals was the only relevant game in the entire major as people wanted NAVI to win and witness S1mple lift the PGL trophy.

only 1.3m? bro that's a lot still you know

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JokesOver
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I missed c9 vs fnc match Sadge . I bet many other asians missed it too

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JokesOver [#16]

I missed c9 vs fnc match Sadge . I bet many other asians missed it too

dude it's being rebrodcasted right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XScE9dancs&ab_channel=VALORANTChampionsTour

go watch it

it happens every VCT, don;t misss it.
c9 v fnc was neck to neck

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JokesOver
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frockfrog [#17]

dude it's being rebrodcasted right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XScE9dancs&ab_channel=VALORANTChampionsTour

go watch it

it happens every VCT, don;t misss it.
c9 v fnc was neck to neck

yeah I'm watch rn

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ciro
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Why make a thread like this, if a cs frog comes here he will see this as coping lmfao

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ItsHunter
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Hidden_Name [#4]

Wait for Furia vs Secret Grand Finals

Yea bro just you guys watch, they gonna stomp their way to the finals man

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ruihfjk
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USCK [#12]

It wasn’t low? It avraged more than cs major group stages

Yeah True

I don't know why people saying low viewership.

for most of the regions, timings are pretty fucked Asian countries and the EU literally can not watch Fnatic vs Cloud. Out of 500k viewers, 70 percent is only NA

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JettOnetap [#3]

Csgo major had like 300k avg viewership in groups

And valorant 400k

#23
EpicGamerGamingEpicly
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also its not the weekend yet views will definitely increase in the weekend

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ruihfjk [#21]

Yeah True

I don't know why people saying low viewership.

for most of the regions, timings are pretty fucked Asian countries and the EU literally can not watch Fnatic vs Cloud. Out of 500k viewers, 70 percent is only NA

bruh lots of NA is at work during those games
its kinda fucked for lots of people

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VeLooZ
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Carthage_Er_Pola [#14]

You're forgetting streams in other languages too...and also YouTube

Yes. that way its Low Viewers. because some user watch as languages they can

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TractorBrrr
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JettOnetap [#3]

Csgo major had like 300k avg viewership in groups

Major challengers stage is considered more as qualifier, actual 'group stage' is Legends stage in which avg viewership was ~590k.
Also remember major had Swiss system which has a lot more matches than simple double elim bracket, +all matches were bo1.
So valorant should have the edge in views at least in terms of bracket and schedule

https://escharts.com/blog/pgl-major-stockholm-knockout-stage-preview

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MilanTheMyth
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Blazieboy [#7]

It also had only 1.3 million in the Semifinals. Finals was the only relevant game in the entire major as people wanted NAVI to win and witness S1mple lift the PGL trophy.

"Only"

What numbers are u talking about?

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ezz--
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Might also be affected by IEM Winter which is starting soon and ending the same day as champions

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ImpudentBeast
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Also its the timing of the matches. Cant be up to watch 2nd and 3rd game of the day here.

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hellaeleganceyeah
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SuperRoss [#22]

And valorant 400k

lowest has 500k

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hellaeleganceyeah
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ciro [#19]

Why make a thread like this, if a cs frog comes here he will see this as coping lmfao

im a valorant frog through and through and i see this as copium lmao

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dolphincandy
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.

#33
frockfrog
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hellaeleganceyeah [#31]

im a valorant frog through and through and i see this as copium lmao

m a real frog

#34
washedaway
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It's the group stage, what did you expect? Only diehard fans watch group stage matches, and even then there still was a peak of 600k concurrent viewers. 600k is not at all a bad number, seeing as these were roughly the same numbers in the opening matches of CSGO PGL Stockholm Major. If these numbers drop during playoffs, THEN I'd think there's a problem.

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valulrantefanboy
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Group stage 500k is not low lmao, what do you want, and mid-week , also teams not popular, also not best time zone for all regions

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Larry
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USCK [#12]

It wasn’t low? It avraged more than cs major group stages

Yes and no. Hard to compare the challenger stage viewers from cs and Valorant since they are ran in completely different ways. Valorant there are set groups with 1 match at a time. Cs has one big group with teams playing each other based on their record typically with more than one match playing at the same time. If you’re a diehard fan you watch all the games but if your team isn’t playing you don’t really care.

Don’t know why people care so much about the viewership. CS set the bar high with the Major but trying to only focus on the Valorant viewership will just cause people to go nuts.

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spookmeister [#24]

bruh lots of NA is at work during those games
its kinda fucked for lots of people

Honestly I feel like the majority of people who watch Valorant in NA don’t work as many of them are kids or younger. I can see like them being in school but idk. Don’t know anyone my age who regiously watches Valorant. They only play it.

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TractorBrrr [#26]

Major challengers stage is considered more as qualifier, actual 'group stage' is Legends stage in which avg viewership was ~590k.
Also remember major had Swiss system which has a lot more matches than simple double elim bracket, +all matches were bo1.
So valorant should have the edge in views at least in terms of bracket and schedule

https://escharts.com/blog/pgl-major-stockholm-knockout-stage-preview

So valorant should have the edge in views at least in terms of bracket and schedule

that's not how it works,

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-champions-2021

for 1 years old esport game, and got average 492k views in the day 1
it's pretty good stats

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vasant
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wait for sentinels match and get 5 mill views

#40
Larry
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ShadowisBAD [#2]

its the first day brotha wait until playoffs and wait until sen liquid

Really depends on who is playing. Sentinels vs Liquid will bring in the best viewership most likely. In Berlin, the peak viewership was 811,000k and it was in the group stage. The finals had 690k. It is the first day so it will most likely get higher. I don’t know why people are so concerned about viewership though. I think it will get 1.2-1.5 peak viewership but I don’t think it will come close to the CS major.

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Larry
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JettOnetap [#3]

Csgo major had like 300k avg viewership in groups

It was 500k I think but it’s hard to compare the group stage in the cs major cs Valorant considering they are ran in two different ways.

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Larry [#40]

Really depends on who is playing. Sentinels vs Liquid will bring in the best viewership most likely. In Berlin, the peak viewership was 811,000k and it was in the group stage. The finals had 690k. It is the first day so it will most likely get higher. I don’t know why people are so concerned about viewership though. I think it will get 1.2-1.5 peak viewership but I don’t think it will come close to the CS major.

It doesn't even have to get close to CS viewership. CS has had 20 years to build up its fanbase and just had its first major in 2 years with a great s1mple vs niko storyline. Of course they beat records there.

Valorant is only a year and a half old

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kapteN
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"views are low"

They aren't. Viewership is pretty sick for a game that's only 1.5 years old.

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Larry
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kapteN [#42]

It doesn't even have to get close to CS viewership. CS has had 20 years to build up its fanbase and just had its first major in 2 years with a great s1mple vs niko storyline. Of course they beat records there.

Valorant is only a year and a half old

I know it doesn’t have to get close but people keep talking like it should get that viewership or beat it which is absurd imo. It has more to do with CS being around for 20 years. The fact there was a full sell out crowd helps a lot. The stage is cool and all for Valorant but the crowd makes that much more of a difference. Riot for whatever reason seems to have no interest in having a crowd atm.

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ItsMeDio [#38]

So valorant should have the edge in views at least in terms of bracket and schedule

that's not how it works,

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-champions-2021

for 1 years old esport game, and got average 492k views in the day 1
it's pretty good stats

Why is that not how it works?? It is well known by tournament organizers that a double elim bracket brings in more viewership than a swiss system, because each game is more valuable.
Swiss system on the other hand is much more fair to the participants

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ShadowisBAD [#2]

its the first day brotha wait until playoffs and wait until sen liquid

liq vs kru is going to be the most the watched game today since Aguero is streaming it today

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