Is there a possibility of sinatraa coming back to the pro scene? Im pretty sure that all acusations from his gf were stopped. She did not follow through with the lawsuits and the investigation was inconclusive. Im thinking Sinatraa might come back and play for a team and if he does which team might he go to since Sen doesnt really need him.
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I don't think there is. People forget Riot didn't ban him because of the accusations alone, they banned him because he promised to cooperate with their investigation and then didn't. If he had cooperated, and nothing was found, I'd want him back. The gf still has a few months to back up the accusation, if she doesn't, then maybe he could come back, but just adding him back to the scene in a tier 1 team would do more harm than good
SeaCDragon [#10]I don't think there is. People forget Riot didn't ban him because of the accusations alone, they banned him because he promised to cooperate with their investigation and then didn't. If he had cooperated, and nothing was found, I'd want him back. The gf still has a few months to back up the accusation, if she doesn't, then maybe he could come back, but just adding him back to the scene in a tier 1 team would do more harm than good
Interesting, do you think if cleo does say she was lying he would be cleared and then a t1 team would pick him up?
YvngKurry [#11]Interesting, do you think if cleo does say she was lying he would be cleared and then a t1 team would pick him up?
Theres no way she admits that now unless she's somehow coerced to say it because the backlash would be very heavy
Danny [#8]I hope he does return tbh.
It’d be really sad if baseless accusations killed the career of one of NA’s best players
not baseless… there was video and screenshot proof
YvngKurry [#11]Interesting, do you think if cleo does say she was lying he would be cleared and then a t1 team would pick him up?
yes, but she probably wont admit to lying. I think the most realistic good scenario for the whole thing would be she comes back with proof and we can finally settle it. What I think is gonna happen is that she never comes forward and the whole case is left in limbo. If that hapens, once the time limit runs out there wouldn't be a legal problem with a team picking him up, but it would still be bad for PR and some casters said they dont want to cast his games until the matter is settled
SeaCDragon [#15]yes, but she probably wont admit to lying. I think the most realistic good scenario for the whole thing would be she comes back with proof and we can finally settle it. What I think is gonna happen is that she never comes forward and the whole case is left in limbo. If that hapens, once the time limit runs out there wouldn't be a legal problem with a team picking him up, but it would still be bad for PR and some casters said they dont want to cast his games until the matter is settled
Yeah i agree with this scenario 100%
turkey [#14]not baseless… there was video and screenshot proof
if it's not enough for a court of law or riot, it's not enough to ruin someone's career
YvngKurry [#11]Interesting, do you think if cleo does say she was lying he would be cleared and then a t1 team would pick him up?
Bhai ab sinatraa ne jawani ke josh me galti toh kri h ..but hardcore nhi karna chaiye tha 😈
Danny [#8]I hope he does return tbh.
It’d be really sad if baseless accusations killed the career of one of NA’s best players
Exactly dude how could the sova who is funny and good at video games do something like that
utsav [#20]Bhai ab sinatraa ne jawani ke josh me galti toh kri h ..but hardcore nhi karna chaiye tha 😈
cringe indian
Danny [#19]if it's not enough for a court of law or riot, it's not enough to ruin someone's career
lmao do you think orgs give a fuck about all that legal stuff? a pr issue is a pr issue in every tier 1 org right now no matter what the legal or riot standing is on it
utsav [#20]Bhai ab sinatraa ne jawani ke josh me galti toh kri h ..but hardcore nhi karna chaiye tha 😈
wtf
turkey [#23]lmao do you think orgs give a fuck about all that legal stuff? a pr issue is a pr issue in every tier 1 org right now no matter what the legal or riot standing is on it
first you say the allegations were not baseless then you come in with the "do you think orgs care about legal stuff" I can't with this shit lmaooo
killjoysfriday [#21]Exactly dude how could the sova who is funny and good at video games do something like that
when did I say that he couldn't do it? I'm saying there's no proof he did.
SeaCDragon [#10]I don't think there is. People forget Riot didn't ban him because of the accusations alone, they banned him because he promised to cooperate with their investigation and then didn't. If he had cooperated, and nothing was found, I'd want him back. The gf still has a few months to back up the accusation, if she doesn't, then maybe he could come back, but just adding him back to the scene in a tier 1 team would do more harm than good
Both didint cooperate
Danny [#19]if it's not enough for a court of law or riot, it's not enough to ruin someone's career
Do you know how expensive legal battles are? Large reason why many victims have to avoid, sadly. Not to mention, what is this concept of "isn't enough for a court of law it isn't enough to ruin someone's career?" That is kinda narrow-minded and quite silly, tbh. Do you know how many clever lawyers have had cases thrown out of court on technicalities when the victim's case was obviously very legit?
dexter000111 [#5]No org wants anything to do with him. It's a matter of image.
But sinatraa cud come back to pro scene through an orgless team with some new players
rise seem like an org that would consider him
heavnsent [#28]Do you know how expensive legal battles are? Large reason why many victims have to avoid, sadly. Not to mention, what is this concept of "isn't enough for a court of law it isn't enough to ruin someone's career?" That is kinda narrow-minded and quite silly, tbh. Do you know how many clever lawyers have had cases thrown out of court on technicalities when the victim's case was obviously very legit?
Rape is crime so victim doesnt need to have a lawyer, its not a civil suit. Country have a prosecutor who tries to get a conviction and accused needs a lawyer.
Danny [#26]when did I say that he couldn't do it? I'm saying there's no proof he did.
IDK i never followed the situation ur just dickriding hard lmao
killjoysfriday [#32]IDK i never followed the situation ur just dickriding hard lmao
I’m not dickriding, i don’t watch his content at all
I just think that there isn’t enough evidence to ruin his career
I’m not a delusional fanboy i just see that both investigations on him fell flat
Danny [#33]I’m not dickriding, i don’t watch his content at all
I just think that there isn’t enough evidence to ruin his career
I’m not a delusional fanboy i just see that both investigations on him fell flat
now why would investigations against a powerful and rich person not hold up 🤔🤔🤔🤔 + evidence in a rape case is hard to get
killjoysfriday [#34]now why would investigations against a powerful and rich person not hold up 🤔🤔🤔🤔 + evidence in a rape case is hard to get
so if someone accuses someone of something with no evidence, and that person is rich, their whole livelihood should just be destroyed?
Danny [#35]so if someone accuses someone of something with no evidence, and that person is rich, their whole livelihood should just be destroyed?
LMFAOO how is his livelihood destroyed? explain that to me. is he living paycheck to paycheck now? his house is gone and he can’t get over 100 viewers on his streams?
killjoysfriday [#36]LMFAOO how is his livelihood destroyed? explain that to me. is he living paycheck to paycheck now? his house is gone and he can’t get over 100 viewers on his streams?
Ok I definitely overstated while saying livelihood but I still don’t think someone’s professional career should be ended without any solid proof of his actions
Danny [#37]Ok I definitely overstated while saying livelihood but I still don’t think someone’s professional career should be ended without any solid proof of his actions
didnt he not cooperate with the Riot investigation?
blizzard [#38]didnt he not cooperate with the Riot investigation?
He temporarily didn’t cooperate, got suspended, but then after that he cooperated and they found nothing
He served his full suspension for not wanting to cooperate, and now the only thing stopping him from playing professionally is bad pr
dexter000111 [#5]No org wants anything to do with him. It's a matter of image.
But sinatraa cud come back to pro scene through an orgless team with some new players
I feel like Faze would not gaf
uyheehe [#29]rise seem like an org that would consider him
you mean rise the matchfixers?
im sorry rise fans please dont hurt me
array [#31]Rape is crime so victim doesnt need to have a lawyer, its not a civil suit. Country have a prosecutor who tries to get a conviction and accused needs a lawyer.
wow you know a lot about this. or maybe this is common knowledge and i know nothing about law
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