What was the most weird/off meta comp map u saw a team playing on a map? Bonus points if it's not PRX or in tier 1
My personal: https://www.vlr.gg/130628/xset-vs-xerxia-esports-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-opening-c/?game=95063&tab=overview
Like bro astra and yoru on icebox in 2022 what is that 💀
I don't think this counts, but this Ascent had some interesting roles from Sen:
Also this game both teams were running Astra on Fracture also KC were playing Jett on Fracture
https://www.vlr.gg/459827/bbl-esports-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w1/?game=207152&tab=overview
The Astra's ended up top fragging, but in terms of gameplay it was actually trolling to pick astra over brim
Edit: I put the wrong link for the second one
Dark3st [#3]
we know u saw the thread lil bro
TentacleThing [#2]I don't think this counts, but this Ascent had some interesting roles from Sen:
Also this game both teams were running Astra on Fracture also KC were playing Jett on Fracture
https://www.vlr.gg/459827/bbl-esports-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w1/?game=207152&tab=overview
The Astra's ended up top fragging, but in terms of gameplay it was actually trolling to pick astra over brimEdit: I put the wrong link for the second one
I think u put the same links
But yeah maybe they should have just tried zekken on senti
ynuser [#5]I think u put the same links
But yeah maybe they should have just tried zekken on senti
Okay I fixed it now it should be the KC BBL Fracture
Dark3st [#3]
heard 100T is calling after seeing this
TentacleThing [#2]I don't think this counts, but this Ascent had some interesting roles from Sen:
Also this game both teams were running Astra on Fracture also KC were playing Jett on Fracture
https://www.vlr.gg/459827/bbl-esports-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w1/?game=207152&tab=overview
The Astra's ended up top fragging, but in terms of gameplay it was actually trolling to pick astra over brimEdit: I put the wrong link for the second one
i mean personally i dont think either astra or jett are bad on fracture, the reason jett is like never played is bc during chamber meta it was a 100% chamber map so everyone played raze, but her dash entries are solid and there are some good op lines. astra is also lowk a better brim imo
Two_Percent [#10]i mean personally i dont think either astra or jett are bad on fracture, the reason jett is like never played is bc during chamber meta it was a 100% chamber map so everyone played raze, but her dash entries are solid and there are some good op lines. astra is also lowk a better brim imo
I mean the reason Brimstone is better though is because he has 3 smokes which is very important especially on site execs or retakes, his ult is better specifically on fracture because you can basically an entire plant site, and his smokes don't require anything to be placed before, its just point and click on a tablet.
gamergirl [#4]we know u saw the thread lil bro
You guys are cute, I dont care im here for fun and reading you guys tweak out is hilarious
Dark3st [#13]You guys are cute, I dont care im here for fun and reading you guys tweak out is hilarious
ZASTIANNN [#8]m80 wit fade breach kayo on ascent
that was just a good comp that makes sense though
gotta be this one. Masters title on the line and they are running this shit. Historic to say the least.
jamONE [#19]game 1 on lotus
I mean that was just an accident tho lmao
i remember that astra yoru comp
i remember there was like a round where they faked b with the astra ult and yoru tapped the spike and tped out and everyone rotated to a
back when yoru wasnt meta that was a BEAUTIFULLLL round to watch
Jayde [#20]I mean that was just an accident tho lmao
true but still fun to see lol
Dark3st [#13]You guys are cute, I dont care im here for fun and reading you guys tweak out is hilarious
Disney villain type reply 💀💀 you ain’t demon1 lil bro
inuis [#16]
What was the plan with that riddle order comp 💀💀💀 3 smokes, no initi, no movement
Also that fut one isn’t the worst other than the phoenix, double scans is going to be meta in a bit
Jayde [#18]Fpx icebox from last year, weirdest comp ever but i mean it worked
Until it didn’t
It was fun seeing fpx do well with interesting comps, in some ways they were ahead of the meta with their yoru viper picks on every map. Maybe a little too ahead of the meta tho…
Jayde [#20]I mean that was just an accident tho lmao
And they won 13-3 gc is chopped 🥀🥀
inuis [#16]
amazing picks, i wish i could find the one time a team played split with 3 duelists, i think it was also jp t2 but not sure
Jayde [#20]I mean that was just an accident tho lmao
nobody actually believes its an accident, just see the comps they were running in pacific games, 5 smokes, 4 duelist + smokes, 4 senti + smokes, 4 init + smokes, they knew they were smurfing
https://www.vlr.gg/221296/point-of-authority-blossom-vs-team-smg-gc-game-changers-2023-asia-pacific-open-2-playoffs-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/221300/team-smg-gc-vs-global-esports-phoenix-game-changers-2023-asia-pacific-open-2-playoffs-ubsf/?game=133264&tab=overview
RapGod [#23]Overcook
Idek what KC were doing in stage 2 lol. They kept scraping so much comps.
Triple initiator is wild though, I remember this. Absolutely insane
TentacleThing [#12]I mean the reason Brimstone is better though is because he has 3 smokes which is very important especially on site execs or retakes, his ult is better specifically on fracture because you can basically an entire plant site, and his smokes don't require anything to be placed before, its just point and click on a tablet.
But point and click smokes don’t really matter bc if it did, brim wouldn’t have a 0% pick rate across all other maps. 3 smokes is really the only thing selling brim, but honestly I think 2 smokes isnt bad, especially considering astra has recalls those 2 smokes wont be as restricting as like an omen. I also don’t think ults don’t really matter that much on agents other than phoenix, bc you’re only getting like 2-3 ults a map and you’d much rather have an agent with a good ult but mid util than mid util and a great ult
Two_Percent [#32]But point and click smokes don’t really matter bc if it did, brim wouldn’t have a 0% pick rate across all other maps. 3 smokes is really the only thing selling brim, but honestly I think 2 smokes isnt bad, especially considering astra has recalls those 2 smokes wont be as restricting as like an omen. I also don’t think ults don’t really matter that much on agents other than phoenix, bc you’re only getting like 2-3 ults a map and you’d much rather have an agent with a good ult but mid util than mid util and a great ult
Well the reason why the point and click smokes are important is because of how much faster the pace on Fracture is. Also the big thing about three smokes is that Brim can shut down all the important chokes when executing on one of the sites unlike the other controllers. There is a reason why Astra isn't used by any team on Fracture and why BBL eventually went back to using Brimstone after having a terrible record while playing Astra.
TentacleThing [#33]Well the reason why the point and click smokes are important is because of how much faster the pace on Fracture is. Also the big thing about three smokes is that Brim can shut down all the important chokes when executing on one of the sites unlike the other controllers. There is a reason why Astra isn't used by any team on Fracture and why BBL eventually went back to using Brimstone after having a terrible record while playing Astra.
Astra is just harder to play on fracture, but I do think she still is better. Both sites only have 2 chokes, and while triple smoking is effective, 2 smokes + recalls doesn’t leave you without smokes. Also fracture is fast paced, but so are sunset and split, two maps where omen (the slowest smoker) dominates the most on
Fnatic’s first time playing sunset (was their perma ban)
cameran [#30]
I remember this one, didn’t they run it at champs too?
MrHyphon [#36]I remember this one, didn’t they run it at champs too?
surprisingly, yes
soonwookong [#28]amazing picks, i wish i could find the one time a team played split with 3 duelists, i think it was also jp t2 but not sure
acend played a triple duelist split with reyna in 2023
Two_Percent [#25]What was the plan with that riddle order comp 💀💀💀 3 smokes, no initi, no movement
Also that fut one isn’t the worst other than the phoenix, double scans is going to be meta in a bit
double scan is never guaranteed to be meta cause you need stuff to suppliment a scan, could see it working on corrode or ascent though maybe and kc did some double scan on bind and lotus
also just cause its ahead of the meta doesnt make it necessarily good. nowadays most meta shifts are from the game devs changing things, with the only major change not entirely caused by that being yoru double duel meta i guess
inuis [#39]double scan is never guaranteed to be meta cause you need stuff to suppliment a scan, could see it working on corrode or ascent though maybe and kc did some double scan on bind and lotus
also just cause its ahead of the meta doesnt make it necessarily good. nowadays most meta shifts are from the game devs changing things, with the only major change not entirely caused by that being yoru double duel meta i guess
You can supplement a sova dart with a fade eye, and a drone with a dog. Also playing it with yoru is peak bc you get flashes and both sova and fade pair insanely well with yoru.
Open your mind to the other side, the true meta is omen/harbor viper yoru sova fade on every map.
soonwookong [#28]amazing picks, i wish i could find the one time a team played split with 3 duelists, i think it was also jp t2 but not sure
Prx played triple duelist last year in Madrid the comp was omen viper Jett yoru raze and their game against edg had one of the best aces oat
MrHyphon [#35]Fnatic’s first time playing sunset (was their perma ban)
tbh it's not that bad considering people run same shit except yoru or deadlock
pistolroundVyseUlt [#21]i remember that astra yoru comp
i remember there was like a round where they faked b with the astra ult and yoru tapped the spike and tped out and everyone rotated to a
back when yoru wasnt meta that was a BEAUTIFULLLL round to watch
Even fracture was good, fox lurks were so funny
inuis [#38]acend played a triple duelist split with reyna in 2023
yeah, i think it was even before that tho, i think there was yoru and reyna and yoru was still pre rework
Two_Percent [#40]You can supplement a sova dart with a fade eye, and a drone with a dog. Also playing it with yoru is peak bc you get flashes and both sova and fade pair insanely well with yoru.
Open your mind to the other side, the true meta is omen/harbor viper yoru sova fade on every map.
Bro just typing shit 🤣🤣🤣
ynuser [#42]tbh it's not that bad considering people run same shit except yoru or deadlock
Look whose on Sova Breach and omen
soonwookong [#29]nobody actually believes its an accident, just see the comps they were running in pacific games, 5 smokes, 4 duelist + smokes, 4 senti + smokes, 4 init + smokes, they knew they were smurfing
https://www.vlr.gg/221296/point-of-authority-blossom-vs-team-smg-gc-game-changers-2023-asia-pacific-open-2-playoffs-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/221300/team-smg-gc-vs-global-esports-phoenix-game-changers-2023-asia-pacific-open-2-playoffs-ubsf/?game=133264&tab=overview
I like that Pearl comp
Two_Percent [#40]You can supplement a sova dart with a fade eye, and a drone with a dog. Also playing it with yoru is peak bc you get flashes and both sova and fade pair insanely well with yoru.
Open your mind to the other side, the true meta is omen/harbor viper yoru sova fade on every map.
What is bro smoking💔
cameran [#31]Idek what KC were doing in stage 2 lol. They kept scraping so much comps.
Triple initiator is wild though, I remember this. Absolutely insane
I dont think it's necessarily bad, engh had a good way of approaching the upcoming neon meta, but he did it on the wrong map
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