the vibe between cs major and masters is just...

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NneonZz

the vibe in the austin major compared to master toronto grandfinals is just night and day, its actually embarrassing. Im not usually the type to compare the too but since they are going side by side its almost impossible not to

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its just a crowd diff, its a legacy thing i think, you'll have way more die hard fans when the scene is legit 15 years old, valo scene is so young and most teams disband within the first loss

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26 not 15

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HLTV_BIGGEST_FAN

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cs aint even 26 years old lmao

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niijo6

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cs beta came out on 19.06.1999

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oh shit we are in 2025, im cooked

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Subwaysandwick6inch

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Except it is.

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Bigger and more passionate crowd in Austin, I mean there's so much more legacy in Counter Strike, it can't be compared with Valorant this point in time

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It's not just a crowd thing today it's a community thing where people flame players for "standing up" which frankly is bloody tame. Legacy aside, Valorant is five years old and this is usually when games hit their peak popularity and it pains me to see children complaining about every thing that could make this esport a great one in terms of banter and rivalries

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kiyuri

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5000 people vs 20000 what do you expect

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yeah the crowd is straight up 3x the size and its not valo communitys fault, its rit0 fault for cheaping out on the venues this year, bangkok was also played in a FUCKING SHOPPING MALL EXHIBITION HALL instead of an ACTUAL ARENA

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kfan4238173

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toronto is also exhibition hall, literally just a large room

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Ryzmii

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yeah ik, thats why i said this year

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austin major venue is so goated

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Su-metal

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What do you expect when valorant children get upset when people boo and banter other teams. We get a bunch of losers who are too afraid to express themselves sitting there and taking selfies

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Marii

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5000 think pieces on one Fuck you Jingg chant

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Su-metal

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careful riot will stop the game and ban the whole crowd for saying a swear word

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valorant crowd is retarded twinks

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dandann

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Valorant is just too restrictive and corpo-ish meanwhile CS crowd loves to banter with apex with F U apex chants and it's all good no ones taking it personal. If it's in VAL bet riot will shut it down pretty quick

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Champions Paris will be good , French Crowds are actually passionate about their teams especially if KC or M8 Qualify, it will be DVM vs JL again

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valo dead game

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catmeister

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The last time Valorant had such a crowd was in Sao Paulo and that was the only event people complained about so the fans lowkey deserve this mediocrity