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Funhaver dropping NA t2 juice

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Mugen_24

MR funhaver leaking it all about NA T2 https://www.twitch.tv/mrfunhaver

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Dcoo99
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what is the context to this if you dont mind me asking? tuned in but i have no clue why him and seangares are arguing rn and why sean is so mad

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Mugen_24
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he started talking about challengers issues originally, problems with the NA challengers current TO. Admins not being responsive, allocated chats for each teams being in Spanish and not english, Admins not really knowing english. Rules about rosters being enforced based on Admins personal decisions.

Then Tim started talking about things like cheating, wintrading, matchfixing in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in NA challengers. I think Sean is mad that Tim leaked the latter stuff, since there is an investigation going on apparently, that Tim didn't know about.

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Dcoo99
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sean is stupid for confirming there's an investigation tho no? i feel like tim just saying the latter doesn't absolutely destroy the investigation like sean is saying lol

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Mugen_24
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yeah, it appears that a lot of this seems to be a open secret, based on the reactions of the players and staff in chat. So not sure how revealing all of this publicly changes anything. Everyone involved in these scandals likely know this info was already out there.

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New info:

someone in the scene promised to sign a t2 AND a t3 team, paying players 2-5 per month. then ghosted everyone.
Believes that paying anyone in t3 is not sustainable. Only worth paying small salaries in t2.
Talon scrim sharing is real. not saying who did it.

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Dcoo99
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wow interesting. I mean yea 100% t3 isnt worth it unfortunately. The scrim sharing is believable. I think I heard something about korean league of legends teams doing the same, so i wouldnt be surprised if korean val teams participated like frost implied.

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archetype
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of course the scrim sharing is real. and it's 100% true that A korean team is doing it. Not all korean teams do it - DRX is one of the teams that doesn't scrim share.

It also happens in literally every region in VCT.

I'm pretty sure this drama also happens in China. It's an open secret that CN tier 2 in esports is mostly matchfixing and wintrading.

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SleepingSnorlax
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I think Sean kinda fucked up by revealing the investigation stuff

#3
lambidadelta
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anyone got a tldr?

#5
snowconedeity
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holy aura from sgares

#8
sideshowsbaldhead
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“if you gift 100 subs i will name drop one person who i 100% know is cheating” incredible bait wtf

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Mugen_24
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Yeah he's just going off the rails now. He should just stop talking, now that he knows that there is an investigation.

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austyns
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just name drop them wtf? they shouldn't be in the league at all

#18
sideshowsbaldhead
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he said later if anyone actually did it he would’ve refunded he was full baiting at that point

#10
NRGSUPERFAN
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THIS IS WHAT IVE WANTED. MRFUNHAVER ABOUT TO SAVE T2

#11
Mugen_24
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You can always trust him to stir shit up lol

#12
NRGSUPERFAN
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His proposal for challengers is so good too. glad hes sharing it cuz at this point something has to change

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