X10, CR, VKS and FS
(imo Furia is better than VKS, even though it is seed 3)
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cheaterr [#2]X10 is better than team secret
Team Secret had some good scrims against good teams as far as I know
ThewZ [#3]Team Secret had some good scrims against good teams as far as I know
i wouldnt put X10 on this list, but i would put Team Secret on this list. for FS 50/50
StockfishZ [#7]x10??they were so good at iceland your forgot?
X10 lost to the Vikings in Iceland, who in my opinion are one of the worst teams in the tournament...
cheaterr [#5]i wouldnt put X10 on this list, but i would put Team Secret on this list. for FS 50/50
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boea0 [#12]secret furia cr
vk tbh q good
secret to me was never good so didn't really understand their hype even PRX is better than imo
cr (no offense) plays like a 5-stack ranked team and their 7 man roster (or 6man idk) just doesn't work
furia is br so
yes. TS is good, but they're just lucky tbh winning finals over PRX
boea0 [#12]secret furia cr
vk tbh q good
secret to me was never good so didn't really understand their hype even PRX is better than imo
cr (no offense) plays like a 5-stack ranked team and their 7 man roster (or 6man idk) just doesn't work
furia is br so
Today I watched the final between Furia and Australs, if Furia plays right, with an anti-tactical style, like today, I think they can surprise
valdr0 [#11]VK, Furia, X10, Vikings
yep VK will do okay but VKS and Furia probs cant make it out of groups for X10 it really depends on the team they are fighting and if Pati carries
ThewZ [#8]X10 lost to the Vikings in Iceland, who in my opinion are one of the worst teams in the tournament...
Imo I think X10 will improve a lot given growth in SEA region but VKS are probably still big yikes
ThewZ [#8]X10 lost to the Vikings in Iceland, who in my opinion are one of the worst teams in the tournament...
what happen in iceland is kinda irrelevant tbh
ranker11 [#20]I really forgot about X10 when was the last time they played? is patiphan back?
yeah he is
cheaterr [#13]yes. TS is good, but they're just lucky tbh winning finals over PRX
nah they got 3-0 idk about that
cheaterr [#2]X10 is better than team secret
x10 cant even beat tier 2 teams convincingly. they always go 1-1. what u mean?
boea0 [#12]secret furia cr
vk tbh q good
secret to me was never good so didn't really understand their hype even PRX is better than imo
cr (no offense) plays like a 5-stack ranked team and their 7 man roster (or 6man idk) just doesn't work
furia is br so
so prx is good? TS is the only dominant in the last vct. the second prx then AE
boea0 [#12]secret furia cr
vk tbh q good
secret to me was never good so didn't really understand their hype even PRX is better than imo
cr (no offense) plays like a 5-stack ranked team and their 7 man roster (or 6man idk) just doesn't work
furia is br so
CR is now better than any latam and brazil team
wtfrawruwusussybakauwuwuw [#25]that tourna isnt even important
the results of the tourney did not matter but secret looked lost as hell. even ignoring strats their aim was off by a lot.
futoi [#27]so prx is good? TS is the only dominant in the last vct. the second prx then AE
They are quite decent but their team comps are actually screwing them over and their mental is not very good
boea0 [#29]the results of the tourney did not matter but secret looked lost as hell. even ignoring strats their aim was off by a lot.
agreed despite me being a filo and a hardcore TS fan they looked lost during that tourna and some people were saying excuses like they couldn't play their full potential because of the agent bans and that excuse is kinda stupid because it's not like the other teams were also used to the format
This time I think any team can win any NA / EU team series, obviously NA / EU has a favoritism in confrontations against other regions, but I very much doubt that if they don't study the dark horses they can be eliminated at the stage. groups, in my opinion Liquid and Fnatic will come very strong for this tournament, Fnatic hasn't played anything for a long time and there's no way to prepare anti-tactic against them. Not to mention that we will have a fracture and the new agent (maybe) in the champions, anything can happen tbh.
Noyn [#33]This time I think any team can win any NA / EU team series, obviously NA / EU has a favoritism in confrontations against other regions, but I very much doubt that if they don't study the dark horses they can be eliminated at the stage. groups, in my opinion Liquid and Fnatic will come very strong for this tournament, Fnatic hasn't played anything for a long time and there's no way to prepare anti-tactic against them. Not to mention that we will have a fracture and the new agent (maybe) in the champions, anything can happen tbh.
Furia and Vivo Keyd will do more than 1 month of bootcamp in Europe pre-Champions, maybe Vikings too, and they are all teams with decent coaching staff, this adaptation could make a total difference in Brazil's performance in the tournament imo
Louie [#31]agreed despite me being a filo and a hardcore TS fan they looked lost during that tourna and some people were saying excuses like they couldn't play their full potential because of the agent bans and that excuse is kinda stupid because it's not like the other teams were also used to the format
Hopefully they have a return to form in Champions :)
boea0 [#30]They are quite decent but their team comps are actually screwing them over and their mental is not very good
yah they are not in their comfortable role that's why
cheaterr [#13]yes. TS is good, but they're just lucky tbh winning finals over PRX
How is that lucky tho ? Cope better
Louie [#31]agreed despite me being a filo and a hardcore TS fan they looked lost during that tourna and some people were saying excuses like they couldn't play their full potential because of the agent bans and that excuse is kinda stupid because it's not like the other teams were also used to the format
yep agent bans were super impactful and could affect teams extremely hard but that doesn't mean they play with no strats
futoi [#26]x10 cant even beat tier 2 teams convincingly. they always go 1-1. what u mean?
I mean their star player was injured for these matches, they were playing their coach in
boea0 [#29]the results of the tourney did not matter but secret looked lost as hell. even ignoring strats their aim was off by a lot.
I doubt they took the tournament too seriously tho since no team really prepared much strats for the format. And since TS is a strategy based team, aim wins.
leleuu [#39]I mean their star player was injured for these matches, they were playing their coach in
People are 2head and dont understand bruv
Kiss-Shot [#41]how is 3-0 lucky
they're not like when they're still with bren, its something like SMB
cheaterr [#44]they're not like when they're still with bren, its something like SMB
An entirely new format with an unpredictable outcome because of agent bans. Fucks up a lot of comps and strats.
helohelo [#49]Full sense Team Secret Vikings
FS way stronger than prx who gave a good fight to smb and vs, FS have a chance of beating eu and na teams ig
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Kiss-Shot [#46]An entirely new format with an unpredictable outcome because of agent bans. Fucks up a lot of comps and strats.
every other team is fine
Kiss-Shot [#55]yes because they have better aim. TS like them tactical
they lost to onic and louvre
valdr0 [#11]VK, Furia, X10, Vikings
i don't think the vivo keyd is weak. they play a lot in berlin but lost to kru. furia is not a bad team, they just need to grow and evolve in the championship to be able to win, just like what happened in those games where furia lost to australs, when they met again they won
Furia vs autrals (bo3)
https://www.vlr.gg/42174/australs-vs-furia-champions-tour-south-america-last-chance-qualifier-opening-a
fur 8 - 13aus
fur 13 - 10 aus
fur 9 - 13 aus
Furia vs autrals (bo5 revenge)
https://www.vlr.gg/42187/australs-vs-furia-champions-tour-south-america-last-chance-qualifier-gf
fur 13 - 2aus
fur 13 - 6 aus
fur 13 - 5 aus
Kiss-Shot [#40]FS so good tho? They haven't even played against other teams outside of asia and we're already making assumptions.
FS better than Team secret without a doubt.
Riizwan19xx [#58]FS better than Team secret without a doubt.
probably but who said anything about secret? They're even when it comes to head to head tho so who knows
Riizwan19xx [#58]FS better than Team secret without a doubt.
FS got stomped by AE who got stomped by TS....
futoi [#62]FS got stomped by AE who got stomped by TS....
But that was the past now?? current FS could destroy most of the teams in SEA
Zeijin [#65]But that was the past now?? current FS could destroy most of the teams in SEA
in champions, that is also the past.
ThewZ [#3]Team Secret had some good scrims against good teams as far as I know
Scrims mean nothing, actual matches do.
swaglord69 [#64]TBH envy ngl
the same Envy that shocked everyone in Berlin and made it all the way to finals almost flawlessly? what are you smoking?
boea0 [#12]secret furia cr
vk tbh q good
secret to me was never good so didn't really understand their hype even PRX is better than imo
cr (no offense) plays like a 5-stack ranked team and their 7 man roster (or 6man idk) just doesn't work
furia is br so
Honestly. Their 7 man roster does actually fix a lot of the issues with the japanese scene which is just straight up one tricks. I think this allows them to have pretty meta comps on every map. And they are learning how to fix their issues at a shocking rate. This org or whoever is making these player transactions, knows what he's doing. Or maybe this was just a lucky accident. But I don't think CR will do well. In fact, I think they will do quite shit. But their 7 man roster seems to work decently.
Riizwan19xx [#58]FS better than Team secret without a doubt.
yep they look really strong. watched team secret lost af
DIAZ_lmfaado [#47]fnatic, compared to the other eu teams but idk how they'll perform against the weaker regions
yea fr. vct circuit points are so rigged. FNC played well for 2 (or more) tourneys and yet they got to champions instantly
DIAZ_lmfaado [#50]FS way stronger than prx who gave a good fight to smb and vs, FS have a chance of beating eu and na teams ig
wouldn't say way stronger since they didn't even play each other (APAC LCQ)
Noyn [#34]Furia and Vivo Keyd will do more than 1 month of bootcamp in Europe pre-Champions, maybe Vikings too, and they are all teams with decent coaching staff, this adaptation could make a total difference in Brazil's performance in the tournament imo
Agree 100%... i hope that this bootcamp and the scrims mature our teams a lot to make better decisions in the Champions matches
supr [#70]the same Envy that shocked everyone in Berlin and made it all the way to finals almost flawlessly? what are you smoking?
i was kidding broski envy is my favorite team
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