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his mechanics are good but his personality is very toxic that maybe a reason why he repeats benching and moving to another teams. He is also very toxic in the ranked matches, notably known for the beef between Riddle Caedye and him during the ranked ultimately they blocked each other on X. We still don’t know the exact reason for him being benched but his toxicity may caused a conflict between Munchkin (leader) and foxy9.

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wait fr? he seems like a introvert when i watch him

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Cryptic88 [#2]

wait fr? he seems like a introvert when i watch him

dont know the exact reason of gen benched him but his toxicity is known in ranked. Suggest on the other hand is a very funny guy and he brings out a good mood in the team.

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I mean from voice Comms he sounds like he's the hype man but idk

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he genuinely seems like a nice guy tho and its valorant ranked who wouldnt be pissed

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nuthoneycheerios
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yeah so basically one bigass dumbass assumption

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bilim
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everyone in ranked will definitely be like flipzjder bro. but is he really so toxic? somehow I don't believe that his personality is bad.

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nuthoneycheerios [#6]

yeah so basically one bigass dumbass assumption

then why would he get benched even though his mechanics are good. then the personality come to the question if you have a logic.

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efweema [#8]

then why would he get benched even though his mechanics are good. then the personality come to the question if you have a logic.

so this shit was a big ass speculation, foxy9 probably got benched because of him not playing the way solo liked, hence why he picked suggest which played with solo and peri before

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cxrsedval [#5]

he genuinely seems like a nice guy tho and its valorant ranked who wouldnt be pissed

im not really meant to say about how he plays ranked. im saying that hes well known for his hgh toxicity in ranked matches and it can be inferred that he maybe a toxic guy in general which is not good for team play in competitive scene. His atitude to his other members were not good maybe thats why he gets benched in many teams in such a short time.

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what are u saying man ive watched foxy9's streams and never has he seemed toxic to me lmao
do you have any other examples of him being "hella toxic" in ranked or?

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efweema [#3]

dont know the exact reason of gen benched him but his toxicity is known in ranked. Suggest on the other hand is a very funny guy and he brings out a good mood in the team.

too bad he's shit

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cxrsedval [#9]

so this shit was a big ass speculation, foxy9 probably got benched because of him not playing the way solo liked, hence why he picked suggest which played with solo and peri before

you just technically proved my point. maybe solo did not like about his playstyle which includes his atitude, personality lv or even tilting (which is also what he does in ranked as well). Idk about the Suggest but he has a very high reputation on his micros and personality.

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He's not toxic stop creating a narrative. And it's valorant who won't get tilted sometimes.

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buyprxclassic [#11]

what are u saying man ive watched foxy9's streams and never has he seemed toxic to me lmao
do you have any other examples of him being "hella toxic" in ranked or?

why would he be hella toxic on his stream lmao. He has been hella toxic which caused them to have a beef with other pros such as Caedye and other japanese. Recently, in Okinawa ni Ikutameni (famous streamer)’s stream foxy was also being hella toxic and fighting with random teammates during ranked matches.

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efweema [#13]

you just technically proved my point. maybe solo did not like about his playstyle which includes his atitude, personality lv or even tilting (which is also what he does in ranked as well). Idk about the Suggest but he has a very high reputation on his micros and personality.

ur stupid he did not prove your point

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LordItachi [#14]

He's not toxic stop creating a narrative. And it's valorant who won't get tilted sometimes.

he is toxic unfortunately but im not saying thats the true reason why he got benched in many times. I am assuming based on actual beefs that happened and its not sometimes.

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Cryptic88 [#2]

wait fr? he seems like a introvert when i watch him

Introverts are the most toxic online, coz it's the only place, where they voice themselves. I don't know Foxy, I'm just talking about introverts in general

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Kinga [#16]

ur stupid he did not prove your point

do you actually think “way of playing” only includes aim and skill usage?

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efweema [#15]

why would he be hella toxic on his stream lmao. He has been hella toxic which caused them to have a beef with other pros such as Caedye and other japanese. Recently, in Okinawa ni Ikutameni (famous streamer)’s stream foxy was also being hella toxic and fighting with random teammates during ranked matches.

okay well do you have a clip or something

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k0maky4n [#12]

too bad he's shit

im not glazing suggest just saying comparison based on personality. We still dont know the mechanics because he was taking break for 2024 season. and its just only 2 maps.

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buyprxclassic [#20]

okay well do you have a clip or something

For the okinawa’s clip i cant because okinawa is only allowing sub mode for vod review. Caedye and foxy were not recent one but they are blocked each other on X as witness said.

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k0maky4n [#12]

too bad he's shit

He isn't xd

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danii1 [#23]

He isn't xd

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efweema [#10]

im not really meant to say about how he plays ranked. im saying that hes well known for his hgh toxicity in ranked matches and it can be inferred that he maybe a toxic guy in general which is not good for team play in competitive scene. His atitude to his other members were not good maybe thats why he gets benched in many teams in such a short time.

This is an awful assumption. Ranked and pro play are not the same. Lots of players play differently in ranked because they are just having fun or messing around. I've seen many people who were pretty toxic to randoms in ranked but worked well in an actual comp environment.

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normalman [#25]

This is an awful assumption. Ranked and pro play are not the same. Lots of players play differently in ranked because they are just having fun or messing around. I've seen many people who were pretty toxic to randoms in ranked but worked well in an actual comp environment.

then im just surprised how can a person who seriously being toxic in ranked can manage to be a good person in competitive scene lol. and i know ranked and comp is different. and was it really valuable to bench him and let academy player play on Tier1 suddenly? Foxy9 definitely had a good mechanics even on drx too

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Cryptic88 [#2]

wait fr? he seems like a introvert when i watch him

He is really emotional based on Asia ranked games, he either being toxic towards his teammates or keep saying sorry 1000 times a game just like being crashed out
Idk what’s wrong with him

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normalman [#25]

This is an awful assumption. Ranked and pro play are not the same. Lots of players play differently in ranked because they are just having fun or messing around. I've seen many people who were pretty toxic to randoms in ranked but worked well in an actual comp environment.

and he was only playing on geng for a few months and already got benched. yk even he had good mechanics he got benched then why? remember verno case in the nrg case, foxy9 might crashed to munchkin

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efweema [#28]

and he was only playing on geng for a few months and already got benched. yk even he had good mechanics he got benched then why? remember verno case in the nrg case, foxy9 might crashed to munchkin

stop spreading lies, foxy9 is doing well in GENG hq laughing and singing, grinding ranked. There are no internal issues, if anything the vibes are great

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Being toxic in ranked dosent mean youre toxic in vct or even premier lmfao

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danii1 [#23]

He isn't xd

"He isn't xd" bro thought he cooked

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elendooo1 [#30]

Being toxic in ranked dosent mean youre toxic in vct or even premier lmfao

you cant even relate? then ok yea hes completely a different person in ranked and comp when he can be easily crashout even to the famous pros.

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efweema [#32]

you cant even relate? then ok yea hes completely a different person in ranked and comp when he can be easily crashout even to the famous pros.

I dont need to its common sense. Most pros dont even give a single fuck about comp but you really think they take ranked as serious as a vct match? Ok bro whatever

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gordonramsay [#29]

stop spreading lies, foxy9 is doing well in GENG hq laughing and singing, grinding ranked. There are no internal issues, if anything the vibes are great

when did I spread lies? only assumption btw. im repeating i dont know the EXACT reason of him being benched but in my view it could be one of the reason.

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elendooo1 [#33]

I dont need to its common sense. Most pros dont even give a single fuck about comp but you really think they take ranked as serious as a vct match? Ok bro whatever

when did I mention vct and ranked are the same thing? if he doesnt give a fuck bout comp, why would he often crashout and blocked pro on X because of one ranked game lmao

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efweema [#19]

do you actually think “way of playing” only includes aim and skill usage?

no shit dumbass

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efweema [#34]

when did I spread lies? only assumption btw. im repeating i dont know the EXACT reason of him being benched but in my view it could be one of the reason.

its lies when ur assuming wrong

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cxrsedval [#37]

its lies when ur assuming wrong

im stating one possible reason why he got benched based on the facts that hes being toxic in many ranked games + blocking a pro on sns because of verbal fight. Hence its not a lie.

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efweema [#38]

im stating one possible reason why he got benched based on the facts that hes being toxic in many ranked games + blocking a pro on sns because of verbal fight. Hence its not a lie.

thats literally an assumption because you don't have solid proof

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Ahilios says that he has talked with foxy9 and he is genuinely very nice, so has paperthin said the same thing, even chobra has said this. So no

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cxrsedval [#39]

thats literally an assumption because you don't have solid proof

yea thats my assumption but not a lie. wdym of solid proof? if you are a nice person in general, you won’t be toxic that much in just a ranked game. I define toxic in terms of val means they are being bad atitudes towards others.

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KClaw [#40]

Ahilios says that he has talked with foxy9 and he is genuinely very nice, so has paperthin said the same thing, even chobra has said this. So no

that doesnt mean hes also a nice person in games. Who would be go hella toxic on someone in an interview.

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efweema [#41]

yea thats my assumption but not a lie. wdym of solid proof? if you are a nice person in general, you won’t be toxic that much in just a ranked game. I define toxic in terms of val means they are being bad atitudes towards others.

again you don't even have proof that hes being toxic its just ur word

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efweema [#22]

For the okinawa’s clip i cant because okinawa is only allowing sub mode for vod review. Caedye and foxy were not recent one but they are blocked each other on X as witness said.

source: trust me bro

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cxrsedval [#44]

source: trust me bro

iykyk if you are in asian ranked games

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efweema [#45]

iykyk if you are in asian ranked games

are YOU in asian ranked games dumbass?

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cxrsedval [#46]

are YOU in asian ranked games dumbass?

yes.

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k0maky4n [#12]

too bad he's shit

he is good at the sentinel role. but do NOT let him play anything else. otherwise he will be exposed as an AWFUL player on any other role.

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unknown_trash [#48]

he is good at the sentinel role. but do NOT let him play anything else. otherwise he will be exposed as an AWFUL player on any other role.

hes actually good on flash ini but that wont be happening if munchkin goes viper/kayo

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cxrsedval [#43]

again you don't even have proof that hes being toxic its just ur word

just search interview with munchkin that their team mood during the scrims were hella bad after the kickoff tounrey. maybe that might give an insight of why they dropped yoman and foxy9.

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efweema [#50]

just search interview with munchkin that their team mood during the scrims were hella bad after the kickoff tounrey. maybe that might give an insight of why they dropped yoman and foxy9.

no shit bro they were 3 rounds away from qualifying from bangkok no fucking shit they would be feeling bad

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cxrsedval [#51]

no shit bro they were 3 rounds away from qualifying from bangkok no fucking shit they would be feeling bad

it was after the tourney, they were having difficulty in scrims that caused them to have the worst mood in their team. munchkin said so. not me ツ

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Its actually funny that so many people are being okay With the fact that he is toxic in Ranked

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efweema
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p0tsuz [#53]

Its actually funny that so many people are being okay With the fact that he is toxic in Ranked

because they are vlr user. common sense cant be used here.

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efweema [#19]

do you actually think “way of playing” only includes aim and skill usage?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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efweema [#42]

that doesnt mean hes also a nice person in games. Who would be go hella toxic on someone in an interview.

are u like 16 or smth

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I don't think it's personality based but rather play style. Foxy timing is horrible unlike meteor where even though both is creating spaces, Foxy is either there to fast or too slow. Which forced geng to play a bit more aggressive to push the enemy towards Foxy since he's great at holding site. But this is very predictable in the end.

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most of korean atmosphere, it's hard to being toxic towards the elders when u r younger than them. even if that happnes t3xture and munchkin will be like shut him up and total control over him. their age gap is 5~6y, this is huge unlike the others. this is why most of koreans dont claim foxy9 is toxic towards his teammates. when u have t3 and munch in ur team and u saying "foxy9 is toxic"? this is kinda stupid narrative, and i can definitely tell u are delusional

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theres a very famous (and also trustworthy) chinese CC called 大东彦, hes chinese korean and he said that foxy9 is either angry or soft in rank matches, he switches so randomly and weirdly. (Also last time Life queued into a game with foxy9 and f9 started crying and sobbing randomly for no reason, guess he treated the match too seriously)

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kavie [#58]

most of korean atmosphere, it's hard to being toxic towards the elders when u r younger than them. even if that happnes t3xture and munchkin will be like shut him up and total control over him. their age gap is 5~6y, this is huge unlike the others. this is why most of koreans dont claim foxy9 is toxic towards his teammates. when u have t3 and munch in ur team and u saying "foxy9 is toxic"? this is kinda stupid narrative, and i can definitely tell u are delusional

It would be more convincing to say that foxy9 is mentally weak and easily feels depressed, which harms the team atmosphere. (ofc i dont think so.)

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nuthoneycheerios [#55]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

what does that have to do with my insight of “way of playing”? i think it is better to say micros or mechanics if he only mentions about his in game techniques or pure val skills. dont bring out irrelevant thing if you actually dont know what it means.

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kavie [#60]

It would be more convincing to say that foxy9 is mentally weak and easily feels depressed, which harms the team atmosphere. (ofc i dont think so.)

i agree with your point about korean atomsphere and i hope foxy was not kicked for his personality but it doesn’t make sense the way of he gets benched in even drx. he showed us hes a great flex/senti player and the org is too severe with his skills if he gets benched because of just mechanics. Munchkin said after the kick off their team struggled in scrims and the mood was hella bad, then the team dropped yoman and benched foxy so i wonder why.

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1One1
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Stop using assumption to mix with fact

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efweema [#62]

i agree with your point about korean atomsphere and i hope foxy was not kicked for his personality but it doesn’t make sense the way of he gets benched in even drx. he showed us hes a great flex/senti player and the org is too severe with his skills if he gets benched because of just mechanics. Munchkin said after the kick off their team struggled in scrims and the mood was hella bad, then the team dropped yoman and benched foxy so i wonder why.

geng team atmosphere was bad bcs of yoman, that guy is known a tilter not foxy9, tho i agree that he seems very mentally weak

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1One1 [#63]

Stop using assumption to mix with fact

im sorry if you dont know about inductive reasoning, then maybe you feel confused 😅 assumption can be constructed through the small facts as well!

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