Reykjavik 7-8/10 https://www.vlr.gg/event/353/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik
Berlin 13-15/15 https://www.vlr.gg/event/466/valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin/group-stage
And now has the same number of spots as NA
Lmao
Open your eyes who doesn't think this is a trash format
I'm not asking for more spots for Brazil, BR was bad as SEA in Masters
Olofboost [#7]South America results in previous Masters
Reykjavik 5-6 (VKS), 7-8 (KRU), 9-10 (SHK)
Berlin 5-8 (KRU), 9-12 (VK), 13-16 (HL)And now has 4 spots (more than NA)
Lmao
Open your eyes who doesn't think this is a trash format
:l
Olofboost [#7]South America results in previous Masters
Reykjavik 5-6 (VKS), 7-8 (KRU), 9-10 (SHK)
Berlin 5-8 (KRU), 9-12 (VK), 13-16 (HL)And now has 4 spots (more than NA)
Lmao
Open your eyes who doesn't think this is a trash format
Exactly
This is so bad lol
supernova [#5]
Reykjavik doesny really matter tho, teams are very different now. look at fnatic and TL. its very different rn
StockfishZ [#9]uhh..maybe because they go against EMEA #2 and #3 and KR #1? Put them in group b or c and im sure they can atleast won a match
supernova [#5]
SEA teams improved their overall tactical gameplay so much
BR still playing CSGO rush and kill (Gamelanders is the prime example)
cheaterr [#12]Reykjavik doesny really matter tho, teams are very different now. look at fnatic and TL. its very different rn
Hahahaha omg
shameless
supernova [#17]Hahahaha omg
shameless
yes, a comeback when u loss an argument
just a random sentence
vyltx [#19]ur showing very close matches from masters Reykjavik 😐
its the only instance where brazil and Sea play a match against, and Brazil won.
supernova [#13]
vikings literally the only good team of br bro, vivo keyd and havan liberty didnt do shit on berlin
supernova [#23]Only braindeads here omg
It's not about Brazil, retards
And yes, Brazil + LATAM doesn't deserve 4 spots in Champions
But I can't believe you guys really think SEA deserves 3 spots for Champions, i can't
FS climbed their way to win bro😐
cheaterr [#21]yes, a comeback when u loss an argument
just a random sentence
loss an argument?
This guy just said that Reykjavik doesn't metter
lmao
supernova [#23]Only braindeads here omg
It's not about Brazil, retards
And yes, Brazil + LATAM doesn't deserve 4 spots in Champions
But I can't believe you guys really think SEA deserves 3 spots for Champions, i can't
you do know what LCQ is? they earn it by winning LCQ, beating the whole APAC
supernova [#23]Only braindeads here omg
It's not about Brazil, retards
And yes, Brazil + LATAM doesn't deserve 4 spots in Champions
But I can't believe you guys really think SEA deserves 3 spots for Champions, i can't
sea won apac lcq whats wrong?? you wouldn't say that if nth won no?
why do people even call this guy the king? he's clearly braindead
supernova [#23]Only braindeads here omg
It's not about Brazil, retards
And yes, Brazil + LATAM doesn't deserve 4 spots in Champions
But I can't believe you guys really think SEA deserves 3 spots for Champions, i can't
just wait for champions than, if they are flop in champions than your reasoning here is relevant. easy.
supernova [#23]Only braindeads here omg
It's not about Brazil, retards
And yes, Brazil + LATAM doesn't deserve 4 spots in Champions
But I can't believe you guys really think SEA deserves 3 spots for Champions, i can't
reminder APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC APAC
supernova [#23]Only braindeads here omg
It's not about Brazil, retards
And yes, Brazil + LATAM doesn't deserve 4 spots in Champions
But I can't believe you guys really think SEA deserves 3 spots for Champions, i can't
SEA has 2 slots for Champions, they won LCQ fair and straight and if your brain is so small to comprehend that APAC comprised SEA, South asia, Japan and Korea no wonder you are saying they dont deserve this
supernova [#26]loss an argument?
This guy just said that Reykjavik doesn't metter
lmao
is envy in Reykjavik? gambit? VS? 100T?
vyltx [#25]FS climbed their way to win bro😐
What about Team Secret and X10?
2 direct spots to Champions = NA
lol
Biology_Jesus [#31]SEA has 2 slots for Champions, they won LCQ fair and straight and if your brain is so small to comprehend that APAC comprised SEA, South asia, Japan and Korea no wonder you are saying they dont deserve this
exactly, 3/4 teams in SA playoffs is from Brazil whilst APAC had teams from different regions
cheaterr [#32]is envy in Reykjavik? gambit? VS? 100T?
Jesus christ...
And u talk about ''loss argument''
supernova [#33]What about Team Secret and X10?
2 direct spots to Champions = NA
lol
NA who? and ur opinion trash
supernova [#33]What about Team Secret and X10?
2 direct spots to Champions = NA
lol
they got their Circuit Points from other events so idk what ur trying to say
Biology_Jesus [#31]SEA has 2 slots for Champions, they won LCQ fair and straight and if your brain is so small to comprehend that APAC comprised SEA, South asia, Japan and Korea no wonder you are saying they dont deserve this
NA has 2 slots for Champions, they won LCQ fair and straight and if your brain is so small to comprehend that NA LCQ comprised USA, Canada no wonder you are saying they dont deserve this
supernova [#36]Jesus christ...
And u talk about ''loss argument''
still no good comeback, Reykjavik results is irrelevant with the teams current rankings
supernova [#40]NA has 2 slots for Champions, they won LCQ fair and straight and if your brain is so small to comprehend that NA LCQ comprised USA, Canada no wonder you are saying they dont deserve this
i dont see canada nor oce anywhere in the lcq?????
vyltx [#39]they got their Circuit Points from other events so idk what ur trying to say
Exactly 2 spots in circuit points for SEA same for NA
lol
NA won 1st Masters and reached the Finals in 2nd and is it fair that SEA has the same spots as NA?
supernova [#40]NA has 2 slots for Champions, they won LCQ fair and straight and if your brain is so small to comprehend that NA LCQ comprised USA, Canada no wonder you are saying they dont deserve this
sea comprises of many regions whereas NA is only one region and sea has many competitive teams with potential
supernova [#43]Exactly 2 spots in circuit points for SEA same for NA
lol
NA won 1st Masters and reached the Finals in 2nd and is it fair that SEA has the same spots as NA?
EMEA should have 3 circuit slots too, so basically 5 teams at Champions (we won Berlin) for us and 4 for NA, all other regions - 1 circuit spot (BR and SEA too), and of course LCQ winners
supernova [#43]Exactly 2 spots in circuit points for SEA same for NA
lol
NA won 1st Masters and reached the Finals in 2nd and is it fair that SEA has the same spots as NA?
SEA / BR = - 1 slot
then its fair 🐂
vyltx [#42]i dont see canada nor oce anywhere in the lcq?????
1st i didn't say OCE, so i hope you learn to read first
2nd there's a lot of Canadian players in NA LCQ idk what u mean with that trash line
supernova [#43]Exactly 2 spots in circuit points for SEA same for NA
lol
NA won 1st Masters and reached the Finals in 2nd and is it fair that SEA has the same spots as NA?
champions format was done before Iceland
if anything, take your problem to Riot themselves instead of ranting in a fucking forum
supernova [#47]1st i didn't say OCE, so i hope you learn to read first
2nd there's a lot of Canadian players in NA LCQ idk what u mean with that trash line
Canadian players ≠ Canadian teams
Olofboost [#45]EMEA should have 3 circuit slots too, so basically 5 teams at Champions (we won Berlin) for us and 4 for NA, all other regions - 1 circuit spot (BR and SEA too), and of course LCQ winners
Yes, maybe Korea should have 2 spots too
drewxa [#48]champions format was done before Iceland
if anything, take your problem to Riot themselves instead of ranting in a fucking forum
????????? But the forum is to discuss this kind of thing
wth are u talking about?
supernova [#51]Yes, maybe Korea should have 2 spots too
Korea sucks except VS, F4Q dead last at Berlin, Nuturn and Damwon not even in the finals of LCQ, 1 for them is enough
vyltx [#49]Canadian players ≠ Canadian teams
I don't even know what ORG are based in Canada, they always played together
Maybe Version1 or Rise is
supernova [#36]Jesus christ...
And u talk about ''loss argument''
get to the point... stop stalling, makes you look like an arrogant idiot
Olofboost [#55]Korea sucks except VS, F4Q dead last at Berlin, Nuturn and Damwon not even in the finals of LCQ, 1 for them is enough
nice take tbh
Tanizhq [#52]If any other sub-region was better, they would have gotten the spot. Riot didnt give SEA a third spot, the other sub-regions lost their chance themselves
They give SEA 2 spots + a chance for 3rd spot
Same as BR 2 direct spots + LCQ
And both region don't deserves it
ireplytoidiots [#53]king is acting like a peasant, hurts to see
I'm trying to bring up a serious discussion, but it looks like it's too much for vlr.gg
:/
supernova [#59]They give SEA 2 spots + a chance for 3rd spot
Same as BR 2 direct spots + LCQAnd both region don't deserves it
riot doesnt care about whos better they only care about the viewers + sea won a spot for themselves thru lcq
StockfishZ [#24]vikings literally the only good team of br bro, vivo keyd and havan liberty didnt do shit on berlin
I know
we don't deserve 2 direct spots + LCQ either
Olofboost [#55]Korea sucks except VS, F4Q dead last at Berlin, Nuturn and Damwon not even in the finals of LCQ, 1 for them is enough
Fine
It doesn't change the fact that 2 direct Champions spots for SEA is too much
And people are freaking out because i'm saying that
DIAZ_lmfaado [#61]riot doesnt care about whos better they only care about the viewers + sea won a spot for themselves thru lcq
If Riot only cared about viewers NA would have 5 direct Champions spots
supernova [#64]If Riot only cared about viewers NA would have 5 direct Champions spots
if im being honest only 4 teams from NA can pull good viewers, that's sen, envy, c9b and 100t
supernova [#64]If Riot only cared about viewers NA would have 5 direct Champions spots
not all NA teams get good viewers, only the popular ones like SEN, TSM, 100t
vyltx [#65]if im being honest only 4 teams from NA can pull good viewers, that's sen, envy, c9b and 100t
even envy doesnt get many viewers, but it might have changed after berlin
vyltx [#65]if im being honest only 4 teams from NA can pull good viewers, that's sen, envy, c9b and 100t
Envy? no shot
Sen, C9, 100T and TSM
Even FaZe , NRG and T1 has more fans than Envy in Valorant
supernova [#68]Envy? no shot
Sen, C9, 100T and TSM
Even FaZe , NRG and T1 has more fans than Envy in Valorant
after their performance in Berlin a lot of people would be looking forward to them playing
supernova [#68]Envy? no shot
Sen, C9, 100T and TSM
Even FaZe , NRG and T1 has more fans than Envy in Valorant
nrg fans gave up XD
i dont see any t1 fans after brax, dazed etc left
DIAZ_lmfaado [#70]nrg fans gave up XD
i dont see any t1 fans after brax, dazed etc left
They're still around, it's just that their team isn't playing so they're really gone but they'll be back
supernova [#60]I'm trying to bring up a serious discussion, but it looks like it's too much for vlr.gg
:/
if u dont want other region to have any slot, then champions should just be all NA and EMEA if any other region didn't deserve the slot.
futoi [#72]if u dont want other region to have any slot, then champions should just be all NA and EMEA if any other region didn't deserve the slot.
''if u don't want other region to have any slot''
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Bro for real
Quackyquack [#73]i think in the future the number of slots for NA and EMEA will increase. i highly doubt riot is gna make SEA have more slots than NA and EMEA. just calm down it is only the first year of valorant. its gna get better in the future.
Let's hope so
First of all, this is the first year of competitive valorant and of course no one knows who will really dominate the scene. The slots are based on how big a region and how popular it is on that region. These slots will surely be readjusted next year for sure and don't be an ass and expect Riot to be like valve where the international tournaments will only be dominated by EU and some NA teams. Riot knows how to run an esports and on matter how bad a region is, they will still give it a chance to play on international events.
Runatix [#76]First of all, this is the first year of competitive valorant and of course no one knows who will really dominate the scene. The slots are based on how big a region and how popular it is on that region. These slots will surely be readjusted next year for sure and don't be an ass and expect Riot to be like valve where the international tournaments will only be dominated by EU and some NA teams. Riot knows how to run an esports and on matter how bad a region is, they will still give it a chance to play on international events.
Agreed but ''The slots are based on how big a region and how popular it is on that region'' so why SEA has 2 direct spots for Champions?
SEA only cares about mobile games
supernova [#77]Agreed but ''The slots are based on how big a region and how popular it is on that region'' so why SEA has 2 direct spots for Champions?
SEA only cares about mobile games
It's because there are multiple countries playing on that region. Singapore, Malaysia, Taiwan, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam and Thailand. That's a lot of countries dude.
supernova [#59]They give SEA 2 spots + a chance for 3rd spot
Same as BR 2 direct spots + LCQAnd both region don't deserves it
Maybe this is Riot's way of expanding Valorant to SEA and BR since it is pretty evident that people from those region doesn't really care about Valorant when it came out and it is still overshadowed by other games (such as CSGO and MOBA games). Giving them direct slots MIGHT encourage Brazilians (or even LATAmericans) and Southeast Asians people to watch which in return, might develop the scene. Although I agree that Champions should have more slots because 16 teams is kind of underwhelming for a year-end event.
edit: But then again, Valorant is still relatively new and its competitive scene is still growing. Giving exposure to lesser known regions will give them chance to show their best on the int'l stage and their success (if they find it) might encourage other organizations to create teams there. Apologies for the long reply
supernova [#23]Only braindeads here omg
It's not about Brazil, retards
And yes, Brazil + LATAM doesn't deserve 4 spots in Champions
But I can't believe you guys really think SEA deserves 3 spots for Champions, i can't
SEA doesn't deserve 3 spots. OK, agreed. But FS beat BU, DWG, NTH to be here. They are a SEA team that conquered APAC. The tournament they just won? yeah it was APAC LCQ not SEA LCQ.
Runatix [#78]It's because there are multiple countries playing on that region. Singapore, Malaysia, Taiwan, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam and Thailand. That's a lot of countries dude.
So EMEA should have 8 slots? lol
shyftnot [#79]LMAO WHAT? FS is SEA alright but they fought all of APAC to be in Champions. They beat teams from 4 regions to be in champions. And they are the best left for those 4 regions to offer. They aren't just another SEA team that only ever beat other SEA teams. Nothing wrong there.
Are u stupid or what?
I'm not talking about FS/LCQ APAC
supernova [#82]So EMEA should have 8 slots? lol
it's useless to argue to someone who wants to bend things over in his favor. Have fun ranting!~
shyftnot [#86]care to explain?
I'm talking about a region that performed so poorly in both Masters and still has 2 direct spots for Champions (the same applies to Brazil), same direct spots as NA who won 1st Masters and reached the finals in the 2nd Masters
supernova [#87]I'm talking about a region that performed so poorly in both Masters and still has 2 direct spots for Champions (the same applies to Brazil), same direct spots as NA who won 1st Masters and reached the finals in the 2nd Masters
Firstly- those 2 direct spots were chosen for SEA months ago and X10, Team Secret won those 2 spots 1 month ago. How's that relevant now?
Secondly- Performance isn't the only criteria. Like no one wants the game to be dominated by EMEA, NA like CS GO. That's why Riot wants teams from all around the globe for an international LAN.
shyftnot [#88]Firstly- those 2 direct spots were chosen for SEA months ago and X10, Team Secret won those 2 spots 1 month ago. How's that relevant now?
Secondly- Performance isn't the only criteria. Like no one wants the game to be dominated by EMEA, NA like CS GO. That's why Riot wants teams from all around the globe for an international LAN.
1st yeah, Riot made that mistake
2nd SEA doesn't deserve 2 direct spots neither for performance nor for any other criteria
supernova [#89]1st yeah, Riot made that mistake
2nd SEA doesn't deserve 2 direct spots neither for performance nor for any other criteria
Valorant is very popular in SEA. that's why.
Xepter [#90]FS just 13-0'ed Nuturn (Top 3 Reykjavik btw), 13-1 DK, won against NTP in BO5 and you are saying that this region is overrated LMAO
Not the same Nuturn
FS deserved win LCQ apac tho
And yes, SEA overrated as much as BR and both don't deserve 2 direct spots for Champions
supernova [#92]No, it's not
Good argument. I can also say, 'Yes, it is." but anyway it's a very popular game in Philippines and many other SEA countries.
valvenq [#57]get to the point... stop stalling, makes you look like an arrogant idiot
makes him look like it? supernova literally is cocky, idiotic and selfish.
SEA is not just 1 or 2 countries but 10, so its fine for them to get 2 slots compare to KR and JP. Also, FS from SEA got one more slot from LCQ APAC is mean they got skills and talents. APAC is entire asia, right, so it's not just a competition of a players but PING too. FS also play in higher PING than KR and JP and they win, that's why they deserve this spot.
Ohhh look at the time. You discuss about this topic after FS qualified. If any team but not from SEA win you would not do a discussion.
SEA got more slots, you cried
SEA got less slot, SEA cried
I think Riot did great now if they care about players. Let Riot do their things. They can't do everything we want.
We are just a viewer so just watch and have fun with it.
NiPa-28 [#97]SEA is not just 1 or 2 countries but 10, so its fine for them to get 2 slots compare to KR and JP. Also, FS from SEA got one more slot from LCQ APAC is mean they got skills and talents. APAC is entire asia, right, so it's not just a competition of a players but PING too. FS also play in higher PING than KR and JP and they win, that's why they deserve this spot.
Ohhh look at the time. You discuss about this topic after FS qualified. If any team but not from SEA win you would not do a discussion.
SEA got more slots, you cried
SEA got less slot, SEA cried
I think Riot did great now if they care about players. Let Riot do their things. They can't do everything we want.We are just a viewer so just watch and have fun with it.
If you want to discuss about "how skillful among every teams around the world" and put it in "how deserve of each teams" topic, I agreed that NA and EMEA are better than us. But this is world champions, they choose the best of every parts in this world to play in this tournament, NA, BR, EMEA and APAC.
So why don't you buy Riot and tell them to bring every single teams from entire world to do a competition. It's gonna take entire year to find the winner. No one gonna waste their times to watch that.
NiPa-28 [#97]SEA is not just 1 or 2 countries but 10, so its fine for them to get 2 slots compare to KR and JP. Also, FS from SEA got one more slot from LCQ APAC is mean they got skills and talents. APAC is entire asia, right, so it's not just a competition of a players but PING too. FS also play in higher PING than KR and JP and they win, that's why they deserve this spot.
Ohhh look at the time. You discuss about this topic after FS qualified. If any team but not from SEA win you would not do a discussion.
SEA got more slots, you cried
SEA got less slot, SEA cried
I think Riot did great now if they care about players. Let Riot do their things. They can't do everything we want.We are just a viewer so just watch and have fun with it.
Also SEA production sucks.
Riot fix this.
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