Both always op and are insane w it but struggle to rifle. Both inconsistent af. cNed is overall much better than Wardell but there’s a lot of similarities
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dagbarox [#2]cNed's rifle is pretty good If you ask me
Better than wardell’s for sure, it’s nothing special compared to most tier 1 superstar players like nukkye tenz and asuna tho
How do you guys compare operator players? Reaction time, flick speed/accuracy, repositioning/movement? If so, how do you practically measure that and compare? It's difficult to compare cNed and Wardell, in my opinion, since they use a one-shot body kill weapon.
cNed is clearly better with a rifle, at least by my eye test. Operator skill is more difficult to judge. Shit, sometimes I see rifling Jetts pick up operators for a few rounds (ex: yay, also Screwface from T2 NA) and look faster.
streamratings [#4]Better than wardell’s for sure, it’s nothing special compared to most tier 1 superstar players like nukkye tenz and asuna tho
wardell OP is much on point, but if youre talking about rifle cned is better. overall cned is a better player to have than wardell
fisherman [#7]only players that both rifle and awp at a TOP level that i can think of are yayster, tenz, maybe keloqz?
i don't see yay awp often, definitely an insane rifler.
same with tenz, but his awp is the fastest i've ever seen so maybe.
WitLitning [#5]How do you guys compare operator players? Reaction time, flick speed/accuracy, repositioning/movement? If so, how do you practically measure that and compare? It's difficult to compare cNed and Wardell, in my opinion, since they use a one-shot body kill weapon.
cNed is clearly better with a rifle, at least by my eye test. Operator skill is more difficult to judge. Shit, sometimes I see rifling Jetts pick up operators for a few rounds (ex: yay, also Screwface from T2 NA) and look faster.
I would say if operator user is consistent and doesn't miss easy shots he is decent. It all comes down to being accurate. 1shot 1kill
County [#8]wardell OP is much on point, but if youre talking about rifle cned is better. overall cned is a better player to have than wardell
Yes I agree, see the “cNed is overall much better than Wardell”
WitLitning [#9]i don't see yay awp often, definitely an insane rifler.
same with tenz, but his awp is the fastest i've ever seen so maybe.
yay has the highest awp rate out of any player in the tournament after day 5, the stats showed him awping more than cned, shahzam, etc
he awps A LOT for envy
"Much better"... at best he is a little better
.. wardel's rifle is underrated... I think he's been using a lot more rifle on T side in ranked so he will prob try not to awp on T side... I think his entry will get better and he will prob be a better version of Cbot since he will stop baiting his teammates
fisherman [#15]yay has the highest awp rate out of any player in the tournament after day 5, the stats showed him awping more than cned, shahzam, etc
he awps A LOT for envy
Yay misses some of the easiest shots with the awp
GetsystheGr8 [#17]Yay misses some of the easiest shots with the awp
you cant play both sides getsys, it makes your bait less effective
frake_monster [#12]I would say if operator user is consistent and doesn't miss easy shots he is decent. It all comes down to being accurate. 1shot 1kill
is there an accuracy tracker for operators? that excludes spam shots, like spamming a smoke or wall? you've got a fair point, but i don't see how you can use that metric to compare cNed and Wardell.
fisherman [#15]yay has the highest awp rate out of any player in the tournament after day 5, the stats showed him awping more than cned, shahzam, etc
he awps A LOT for envy
fair enough, i didn't see him do it often in NA competition, but i guess it's a useful tool to pull out in international competition.
GetsystheGr8 [#17]Yay misses some of the easiest shots with the awp
I think envy individual player is really good in terms of aim. but they need to adjust themselves to their opponent play style . most of the game in map 1 went close but when it comes to next map they crush their opponent
streamratings [#4]Better than wardell’s for sure, it’s nothing special compared to most tier 1 superstar players like nukkye tenz and asuna tho
you can't hold all pros to a standard like nukkye tenz or asuna because they stand out and are literaly known for their aim
GetsystheGr8 [#16]"Much better"... at best he is a little better
.. wardel's rifle is underrated... I think he's been using a lot more rifle on T side in ranked so he will prob try not to awp on T side... I think his entry will get better and he will prob be a better version of Cbot since he will stop baiting his teammates
yeah i saw the "much better" comment, tried to figure out how "[wardell] operator on point, rifling slightly worse" equated to "[cNed] much better"
i don't know if i've ever seen wardell smoke+dash onto a site in pro play lmao. def seeing it more in ranked, though.
GetsystheGr8 [#16]"Much better"... at best he is a little better
.. wardel's rifle is underrated... I think he's been using a lot more rifle on T side in ranked so he will prob try not to awp on T side... I think his entry will get better and he will prob be a better version of Cbot since he will stop baiting his teammates
wait what, its been a while i didnt watch his stream.did he mostly use rifle on T side?
Mortadelo [#24]If cNed is inconsistent then Tenz too. You can’t ask them to top frag every game
agree, same thing with yesterday match Heat, forsaken and Sen had an offday. G2 crushed them
County [#26]wait what, its been a while i didnt watch his stream.did he mostly use rifle on T side?
Yea unless he has 9k credit he's rifling
Mortadelo [#24]If cNed is inconsistent then Tenz too. You can’t ask them to top frag every game
technically you can, the entire team is buying them Operators and setting them up with utility. "Here, peak this guy I just blinded and kill him, your other angle is clear based on another teammate's smoke/recon." etc.
number_1_bjor_fan [#3]plat chat does a thing of there show where they compare stats and they actually did cned vs wardell you should check it out if you want, very interesting
could you send the vid link?
WitLitning [#5]How do you guys compare operator players? Reaction time, flick speed/accuracy, repositioning/movement? If so, how do you practically measure that and compare? It's difficult to compare cNed and Wardell, in my opinion, since they use a one-shot body kill weapon.
cNed is clearly better with a rifle, at least by my eye test. Operator skill is more difficult to judge. Shit, sometimes I see rifling Jetts pick up operators for a few rounds (ex: yay, also Screwface from T2 NA) and look faster.
yay isnt a rifling jett, he has almost a 50% operator pickrate or something, highest in berlin anyways
WitLitning [#19]is there an accuracy tracker for operators? that excludes spam shots, like spamming a smoke or wall? you've got a fair point, but i don't see how you can use that metric to compare cNed and Wardell.
I don't have any specific tool to compare them but you can only check vlr.gg stats i guess
WitLitning [#29]technically you can, the entire team is buying them Operators and setting them up with utility. "Here, peak this guy I just blinded and kill him, your other angle is clear based on another teammate's smoke/recon." etc.
every player has a bad day. that is not a gamer thing, its a human thing.
County [#8]wardell OP is much on point, but if youre talking about rifle cned is better. overall cned is a better player to have than wardell
id say cned's op is better too, but he is doing it on a higher tier than wardell too so you cant really compare them head to head.
Zaynio [#30]could you send the vid link?
I'll spare u it, Wardell had the highest op pick rate in the pro scene in the world and I think cned had slightly better stats
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