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NA rankings

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#1
farewellVAL

Can we all agree that SEN, 100t, Envy, and XSET are just on a different tier than all of NA? Of course, they'll lose a scattered game here and there but they just seem to be the absolute clear top four teams NA with a drop after that.

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Netero
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yes

#3
DaviCollossal12
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top 4 NA > top 4 EMEA / top 10 NA < TOP 10 EMEA

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Stratum7
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Top 4 NA is better than Acend Gambit G2 SMB? Ahahah what are you talking about

#11
DaviCollossal12
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we'll see in berlin man, i hope cned dont choke and acend win

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Netero
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we're talking about reality

#39
FsJaredFan
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He's saying that NA is better than EMEA which is true. NA has fsjared you don't have shit on us

#42
plebwong
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Agree I do think Top 4 NA > Top 4 EU tho, not by much, not EMEA tho, the TR and CIS people have been popping

#10
thanatos11
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Acend and Sen are equal
Envy are better than G2
Gambit are better than 100T
SMB are better than XSET

#30
chimpy
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There’s no way to know, rn sen are the best cause they proved it in iceland

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Netero
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SEN better on Haven, Breeze, Bind, and Icebox.

#41
thanatos11
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Bind that they lost to generation gaming?

#14
Torogoro
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Sen > top 2 EMEA (Acend and G2) > 2-4 top NA > 3-4 top EMEA

#19
thanatos11
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Gambit and SMB are better than 100T and XSET

#25
Torogoro
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mmm, Gambit if dont choke maybe, SMB probably yes. Those of Gambit are very good, but in professional matches they choke

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Fire737
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Sen is SS tier right now because of their consistency
100t ,envy and xset are S tier

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PrTsty
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Enyv is up there in a month trust me, possibly on same level as sen or slightly below. Same goes for 100T and XSET they are even or 100T slightly above

#12
Netero
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SEN not dropping a map in Berlin bro, they are on a different stratosphere. Envy can be #2 for awhile though

#15
PrTsty
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Envy could probably be able to take series off of sentinels but sen will be consistently better

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dyoun14
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SEN>>>>>>>NV, 100T, XSET>>>>Everyone else

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PrTsty
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NV > 100T XSET

#13
shax4PF
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SEN almost lost to NV when they only had 5 days of prac with yayster theyre not that much better

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Netero
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and SEN won masters 1 with 0 practice with brand new Tenz.

#21
shax4PF
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yea i wonder it mustve been hard transitioning the best player in the world to the best team at the time in NA lol

#23
Netero
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well Yay is top 3 duelist, hell prob tied for 2nd with Asuna.

#24
dyoun14
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So you’re saying Sentinels and Tenz were a lot better than NV and yay but also that NV is not much worse than the best team ITW by far?

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dyoun14
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Sen has won almost all of the most recent tournaments, when’s the last time NV made a grand finals lol, also how tf does them losing 2-0 but both maps were close make them not much worse than the best team in the world, by that logic Soniqs is better than NV because they took a map off SEN

#26
shax4PF
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ur acting like sentinels go all out in qualifiers of 128 stop nitpicking only reason they lose to teams like BBG or maps off some series cuz they dont go 100% during quals of 128 they went 100% against NV and it showed that NV is good enough to compete with them theyre not miles ahead as of now

#31
chimpy
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Xset overrated

#37
Nosey
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you are saying overrated to the most underated team on NA lmao

#9
Nycera
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nah theres a big drop off from envy to xset,xset wouldnt get a round at berlin

#29
farewellVAL
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I definitely think xset could take out anyone in BR KR SEA JP honestly, it would just be bracket dependent

#36
Nycera
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its hyperbole but xset arent on the level of envy 100t sen

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Netero
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wtf

#22
LouBag
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I think it goes

Sen
Envy/100T

Rest

The only teams xset beat in this tourney were Rise and LG. They had a good tournament run in the last qualifier (Similar to V1 and Faze). They beat Sen and 100t and then they turned around and lost to Sen 1-3 and 0-2 to 100T.

They are top of the heap behind the 3 that qualified, but they are not quite on the same level.

#27
Fire737
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Envy fans are the most logical.
Xset is probably #4 because they came 2nd in masters 2 challenger qualifiers and kinda have been consistent

#28
PrTsty
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I mean XSET lost 13 11 three times. They lost a 9 3 lead, a 3 man smoke spray down to not let them go overtime and yays 4k operator saved thema crucial round. Honestly both series couldve gone both ways. I think XSET is tied with 100T on third

#32
farewellVAL
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Very agreeable

#33
Fire737
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I think 100t is better than xset ,look at ascent it was 12-6 could have been over by that point but 100t always kinda feels shaky in the end of their second map look at faze match it was a 11-3 and it became 13-9

#34
Fire737
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And 100t were confident that they will not go to lower bracket before they qualify
Asuna said on stream today that they knew they can beat xset and they themselves banned icebox (previously 13-4)
Edit :Wanted to reply to prtsty

#35
cloud9bluefan
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I have to agree after those 4 its just a coin toss

#38
Danny
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Now that Brimstone Gaming disbanded I agree that those 4 are at the top

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