PRX vs Monyet | VLR.gg

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PRX Vlog - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au_7e1OKmY4&t=632s
PRX vs EDG Map 3 - Split, round 6.
f0rsakeN & Something dies -> Alecks: What the **** -> calms for 2 seconds
Monyet dies -> alecks: you just don't fkin listen

12:30 f0rsakeN, mindfreak, something and alecks discusses what went wrong in the match and monyet just sits there on the side not involved in discussion.

PRX post match interview after getting eliminated by SEN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDkpLfxOMA4
7:30 -> How would you rate your synergy with the team right now compared to start of the tournament?
Monyet: 6... or 7/10 cause its not like that good (he doesn't fit in with the team)

8:19 -> alecks: we're trying to undo 3 years worth of work.... monyet is trying to teach us from his own previous team the way he likes to do things, maybe we don't agree with it (probably why he's not in the discussion earlier).

PRX vs LOUD map 2 Sunset at half time content - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BZkxPV46bM&t=1455s
f0rsakeN: also we not in good shape, we have shaky map, shaky roster. (jinggg left + sign monyet = shaky roster)

Monyet -78 deficit: https://www.vlr.gg/321241/monyet-brainwashing

Clear obvious Monyet is the problem creating shaky roster, doesn't fit in the team from coach ideology, team synergy and his own performance. Monyet knows this with everything shown in vlogs, press conference and media content for riot. PRX deserve the top 3 in Masters Madrid, monyet doesn't.

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Remember when PRX picked up smth? everyone hated the move asking why they bring t2 japanese player who isnt from sg/my/id

they should pick up stew and become #1 team in the world

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stew is good, another option would maybe be Buzz? for whatever reason he's not on long term contract as his contract ends this year in 2024.

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omg PRX buzz would go CRAZY

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WAIT NO IF BUZZ LEAVES THEN MAKO WILL HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING PLEASE TELL ME YOURE LYING

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I support T1 in pacific.... so either PRX takes him or we take him. Autumn knows buzz from C9 Korea days.

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no stop i cant watch my goat mako being tortured like this... he needs some actual teammates who wont choke half the time :(

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i actually fw this, PRX pick stew and JDG brings back yoman. win win situation i think

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The difference with smth, was that they clearly hit a limit in their potential. Something (pun unintended) needed to change as their style became a deficit and were way to easy to read. They had to make a choice on committing to this pure w key or tone it down to smth slower. With the dropping of benkai and picking up of smth they could up the speed and improve the W key strat. Monyet honestly feels like how Benkai used to be on the team in the first half o franchise. Clearly both sides are holding each other back.

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1 of the most braindead 'analysis' lol

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the brackets personal comment? (doesn't fit in, not in discussion, shaky roster?), thats not even braindead, just obvious. I just wanted to add small summary to helps with ending line.

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u cant just pick out some things that they said and come up with a conclusion, also some of the things that you quoted has context that you didn't put in. the -78 deficit is obvious, the rest, is a stretch. Also the fact taht you said Monyet dosent deserve the top 3 is craazy considering how valorant literally depends on the performance of every player, especially in the highest pro scene (masters)

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some of the things that you quoted has context

thats why I gave the source, but the message is there plain and simple, doesn't twist anything. "Rest is stretch" is just ignoring my points then about team synergy and the current fit of the team. Monyet dosent deserve the top 3 is craazy??? his -78 deficit performance is the main indicator reasoning behind that.

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allat

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forgot to add (allat) in title my bad.

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schizo

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I just saw alecks uncensored flaming at players from PRX vlogs and remembering forsakeN comments about shaky roster, Thats 2 members of players/coaching staff not happy at monyet. Thats all.

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the monyet hate boner is crazy

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they need CGRS back

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Months of prep and still say you’re not comfortable playing raze, all while knowing from the start you need to replace their raze is crazy.
Kick this fraud out.

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where theres smoke theres fire

I see the cracks in the wall

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Bro I think you're reading way too much into it. I don't think it's that serious

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New player = worse synergy
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Must replace with another new player instead of building synergy cause the new player will have synergy cause they just will

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just give the man another chance omg how do people still have a hate boner for him

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Monyet dies -> alecks: you just don't fkin listen

He never said you? he said "just dont fkin lisnten" implying the whole team not just monyet..
twising words like that to fit your narrative is scummy as hell

monyet just sits there on the side not involved in discussion.

over psychoanlaysing their team over a 5 second clip out of game is actually insane 💀

brother you are creating a crazy story over some clips, when you never have once talked to any of them or know about how their team works at all
alecks clearly chose monyet for a reason otherwise he wouldnt be here

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Warlordwibz

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He never said you? he said "just dont fkin lisnten" implying the whole team not just monyet..

thats what I originally heard, but since I really wanted to hear alecks flaming players uncensored, I put 0.5x speed and turns out he actually did say "You". PRX editor didn't edit it perfectly enough for 0.5x speed.

monyet just sits there on the side not involved in discussion

there's a reason why I didn't put a bracket comment there, I put bracket comment on 8:19 probably why.... "maybe we don't agree with it" comments from alecks is kinda already harsh enough to say publicly.

I don't hate monyet to the point of kicking him out from the team. I made this thread because there was an uncensored flaming comments from alecks in the PRX vlog and subtle things Alecks and f0rsakeN comments publicly that people may have missed from not seeing half time content and press conferences.

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You're reading way too much into this lol. English is not their native language, sometimes their words don't exactly mean the same thing.

Just like how KC Magnum called their playstyle "stupid".

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I did watch the press conference, remembering the half time content and saw the vlog. I definitely read too much, yer u right.

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I think prx role switching keeps fucking them, just stick monyet to perma raze stop switching him to smokes

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his primary role has always been smokes though, throughout all of 2023 that’s what he played and had a high performance on.

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But clearly prx want a raze main because he plays raze every map except sunset of which they switched because duelist isn't really needed.

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Get Buzz, his English is ok.

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they need to make up their mind abt monyet roles, this is like drx with foxy9 roles issues all over again

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This is an insane hate post to make about Monyet.

To say all of PRX deserves the top 3 spot but not him is just unfair and untrue. Valorant is a team game, especially at a high level like this. You can’t just carry a weak link this far like that, all 5 players need to have impact and they did. Sure they could’ve had more and placed higher but considering the level of the other teams they beat, they obviously did really well together and this roster will make champions if they keep this form.

Alecks said it himself, the team has been together for 3 years with the exception of something who has been here for a year now. Bringing in a new player and having them synergize is not something that happens over a few month off season. Of course he would have the weakest voice among a group that’s been together for years and he won’t align with aleck’s ideology perfectly. he doesn’t know alecks or how he thinks, not yet. Considering that they did really well here, PRX aren’t gonna get rid of him anytime soon, there’s real potential and it’s just small things that can be fixed overtime.

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Warlordwibz

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#20 I don't hate monyet to the point of kicking him out from the team. I'm being critical. -78 deficit and I should JUST only talk about the positive side of just give him time??? what about his negative? say something about that. The criticism said about Monyet comes from HIS OWN teammate and coach.

His teammate and coach made hidden subtle displease comments like:
alecks: you just don't fkin listen (censored on main stream, uncensored in vlogs), monyet is trying to teach us from his own previous team the way he likes to do things, maybe we don't agree with it (publicly on press conference).
f0rsakeN: also we not in good shape, we have shaky map, shaky roster (Publicly on RIOT content)

My personal comments are NOT hating, its not even derogatory:
he doesn't fit in with the team
probably why he's not in the discussion earlier
jinggg left + sign monyet = shaky roster

If there was a scale on which side contributes to winning/losing on each PRX game, monyet would be on the losing side 9/10.

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I would say let them do their thing and stop making fanfiction

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Warlordwibz

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alecks already trying to undo 3 years worth of work since signing monyet, alecks needs time.

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yes everyone already knows that monyet is dogshit

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Monyet's being singled out for his performance, while mindfreak doing worse flies under the radar unscathed.

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It's VLR brother what do expect

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something jett also underperforms but no peep from people

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monyet is the only jinggg's replacement. Even if he never joined GE or any franchise orgs, he still would have been picked up from Tier2 by PRX becuase he's one of the SEA players that proved himself in the APAC LCQ. I even think that Jingg probably advised PRX to take him when he goes for military beacuse he's friend with him from a long time and he's probably the best raze player after him. Monyet has his moments in every game and it shows that the lack of consistency is only because of some bad team chemistry where players are not on the same page. It's quite hard for both monyet and the rest of the team because Monyet can't play like jingg and fit into prx playstyle. And also PRX can't let monyet play game his own way since it doesn't fit into PRX playstyle.
They better figure a good solution if they want to win a trophy.

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Stop with the monyet bullying, it's cringe

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If someone would bully me, even I would never be able to focus properly. PRX fans are just losers 👎It breaks my heart to see a good team with bad fans 💔

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bro is reaching hard with this one

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It ain’t that deep lil bro