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Forsaken = Faker

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CoCloudy

Forsaken is the closest player to a T1 Faker like figure that valorant will ever have
He has incredible mechanics, can igl and can literally play any role and perform
Not only but he consistently brings out new tech and new things to the team (alecks said that he is the reason paper rex style exists)
and in game to hes always using unique tech to outplay opponents (using different guns at different scenarios, using gun drop mechanics to help clutches)

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FireII
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trophy?

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CoCloudy
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FireII [#2]

trophy?

friendly fire...

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moshimoshiman24
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bruh aint nobody ever coming close to faker in the next 10 years.

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cartixuzi
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faker isnt an igl though

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tempacc123
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I agree - f0rsaken is top 3 legendary players of all time right now.

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arin2016
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Nope. f0rsaken is in my top 5 but he isn't at Faker level. He isn't even at s1mple level. Faker has achieved a different status just for his longevity alone.

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brahianv
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without trophies he should not even be in the conversation

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Rodu
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cartixuzi [#5]

faker isnt an igl though

He def has a huge leadership/guiding role considering in the weeks he was gone from t1 they looked like fucking headless chickens who barely made it to worlds qualifications. The Second he came back, T1 starts going on a run to win worlds with the only loss being to their kryptonite known as GenG.

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emirerays
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0/8

#11
NoCheatJustLag
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Have to win atleast one trophy first

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cobalt21312
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weak bait

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jimjam789
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cartixuzi [#5]

faker isnt an igl though

Yeah he is

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Shawn23
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jimjam789 [#13]

Yeah he is

not early in his career. but he is now

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cartixuzi
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Shawn23 [#14]

not early in his career. but he is now

like now now? because I stopped following the scene last year and I don't recall him ever being the main shotcaller. T1's shotcalling has always been split no?

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cartixuzi [#15]

like now now? because I stopped following the scene last year and I don't recall him ever being the main shotcaller. T1's shotcalling has always been split no?

probably, but when he got subbed out last year bc of his hand injury they looked lost I dont think anyone has came out and said who there main shot caller guy is, but I know they look wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better when hes out there so he has some emphasis on it more then likely

so i just assume he is because of that

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Shawn23 [#16]

probably, but when he got subbed out last year bc of his hand injury they looked lost I dont think anyone has came out and said who there main shot caller guy is, but I know they look wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better when hes out there so he has some emphasis on it more then likely

so i just assume he is because of that

i remember that and its clear he has a strong presence in his calls because that man is always calm.

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cartixuzi [#17]

i remember that and its clear he has a strong presence in his calls because that man is always calm.

ong ngl i did not expect them to even win worlds last year and somehow they did that boy faker is a dog

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CoCloudy
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cobalt21312 [#12]

weak bait

not a bait im being so fr

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CoCloudy
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arin2016 [#7]

Nope. f0rsaken is in my top 5 but he isn't at Faker level. He isn't even at s1mple level. Faker has achieved a different status just for his longevity alone.

give him more years then he will reach faker level by then

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CoCloudy
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brahianv [#8]

without trophies he should not even be in the conversation

its just a matter time and we both know it
paper rex are bound to win a trophy eventually with how much talent they have

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CoCloudy [#20]

give him more years then he will reach faker level by then

Faker managed that because League eSports is so much more different compared to Valorant. I doubt f0rsaken would play that long.

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cartixuzi
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Shawn23 [#18]

ong ngl i did not expect them to even win worlds last year and somehow they did that boy faker is a dog

his ass made Ryze who was shit at the time singlehandedly meta and then nerfed for taking T1 to summer playoffs last year lmfao, probably the best moment of his career individually if im gonna be honest

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CoCloudy
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arin2016 [#22]

Faker managed that because League eSports is so much more different compared to Valorant. I doubt f0rsaken would play that long.

he just turned 20
he has many years left
and by then jojo will be old enough to join when forsaken can fully igl so he'll have even more to win and play

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moshimoshiman24 [#4]

bruh aint nobody ever coming close to faker in the next 10 years.

tenz might. #1 stat holder so far, might make a comeback and get a few trophies. when it comes to spotlight, hes the s1mple/faker of valorant, when it comes to skill he USED to be the s1mple/faker, and rn it looks like hes not rly washed on omen.

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Forsaken is indeed the main player who can shoot and cook, since he alone had his contract recently extended to 2026, while the rest (except Monyet) were extended to 2025.

Just need one trophy to shut all the doubters up.

And I'm still waiting myself :')

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CoCloudy
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Mebi [#26]

Forsaken is indeed the main player who can shoot and cook, since he alone had his contract recently extended to 2026, while the rest (except Monyet) were extended to 2025.

Just need one trophy to shut all the doubters up.

And I'm still waiting myself :')

again just a matter of time
everyone knows it going to happen eventually
just when?

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pitchfork
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Nuh uh, not even close

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arin2016
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CoCloudy [#24]

he just turned 20
he has many years left
and by then jojo will be old enough to join when forsaken can fully igl so he'll have even more to win and play

To play that many years you need to actually win something once in a while. He won't have the mentality to continue if he keeps losing, doesn't matter how many years he has left

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Even if he's not at faker level, f0rsaken is still my goat. The guy can play any agent or role at a top level and has been one of the only pros consistently good since 2021. If he wins a trophy he'll definitely be in goat cotention.

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cartixuzi [#15]

like now now? because I stopped following the scene last year and I don't recall him ever being the main shotcaller. T1's shotcalling has always been split no?

Fakers been t1s shotcaller for ages

The main reason why 2019 t1 didn't work out was the clash in calling by mata and faker

Also one of the main reasons fakers individual dominance fell of after 2018 was cuz he was micromanaging the fuck out of everyone

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jimjam789
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Shawn23 [#14]

not early in his career. but he is now

He shotcalled as early as 2016

#33
justo
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I now know what that other thread is talking about. No one is close to Faker my dude. You can ask absolute randoms and they know who he is

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Vegaaa [#25]

tenz might. #1 stat holder so far, might make a comeback and get a few trophies. when it comes to spotlight, hes the s1mple/faker of valorant, when it comes to skill he USED to be the s1mple/faker, and rn it looks like hes not rly washed on omen.

yea not even close
heres wat faker basically did 4 worlds which is basically 4 champs in val. his first 3 he won as the best player itw but the last one he won as the igl basically. so basically someone has to win 3 champions(which aint even close to happening) as the best player itw then win another as an igl.
faker also got 2 msi which is basically 2 masters. and he also got 10 domestic titles which basically means someone gotta win the best domestically freaking 10 times.
closest person in terms of achievements is device but he wasnt considered the best player itw with s1mple playing.

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pullupthen
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This is disrespectful to even compare this bum to the GOAT FAKER

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Ullyr
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gen g karon is faker

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CoCloudy
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pullupthen [#35]

This is disrespectful to even compare this bum to the GOAT FAKER

BUM?!?

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pullupthen
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CoCloudy [#37]

BUM?!?

Everyone is a bum when being compared to the GOAT

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Subreezy
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FireII [#2]

trophy?

VCT Pacific League 2023 !!!!

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Vegaaa [#25]

tenz might. #1 stat holder so far, might make a comeback and get a few trophies. when it comes to spotlight, hes the s1mple/faker of valorant, when it comes to skill he USED to be the s1mple/faker, and rn it looks like hes not rly washed on omen.

he's not even the best player rn and consistency is key, even more compared to faker who's been at the top for 10 years, a closer name would be aspas or less

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CoCloudy
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would you look at that

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Vegaaa
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moshimoshiman24 [#34]

yea not even close
heres wat faker basically did 4 worlds which is basically 4 champs in val. his first 3 he won as the best player itw but the last one he won as the igl basically. so basically someone has to win 3 champions(which aint even close to happening) as the best player itw then win another as an igl.
faker also got 2 msi which is basically 2 masters. and he also got 10 domestic titles which basically means someone gotta win the best domestically freaking 10 times.
closest person in terms of achievements is device but he wasnt considered the best player itw with s1mple playing.

yeah.. but there will realistically will never see a faker in cs, def not val. Atleast not for a ridiculous amount of time

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