G-SR-SE Rouge that is fast but not too fast that it sacrifices control. 49g G-Wolves Hati S+ which has the stock feets which are decently fast.
No fucking wonder this guy has those flicks on 160 edpi
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ASTEROIDCHILD [#2]it's not the peripherals bro
You can't flick that fast on that sens on some peripherals no matter how good you are bro
arin2016 [#3]You can't flick that fast on that sens on some peripherals no matter how good you are bro
skill issue
ASTEROIDCHILD [#2]it's not the peripherals bro
it is, go from a 70 g mouse to 59g mouse and you easily feel the difference
let alone 49g
arin2016 [#3]You can't flick that fast on that sens on some peripherals no matter how good you are bro
not even tenz would cope like this
Nisham [#5]it is, go from a 70 g mouse to 59g mouse and you easily feel the difference
let alone 49g
duh but anyone can adapt to anything within reason that's just the nature of training
ASTEROIDCHILD [#2]it's not the peripherals bro
it is peripherals, you get a fast mouse pad your sens is going to feel faster lighter mouse with fast skates you're going to be and feel fast.
jawn [#8]not even tenz would cope like this
tenz could be consistent like demon1 and still play duelist if he didn't have a schizophrenic head that's obsessed with changing setup and sens. They are equally as fast.
envyz [#11]it is peripherals, you get a fast mouse pad your sens is going to feel faster lighter mouse with fast skates you're going to be and feel fast.
no fuckin shit the point is you can achieve the same speed through training and repetition regardless of the muddiness of your pad and whatever placebo skates you put on LMFAO
arin2016 [#12]It's literally how it works lmao. Funny you talk about TenZ, doesn't he have like a video where he tries many different mouse and say he can't play with some of them no matter what? What happened to peripherals don't matter?
you can have the heaviest mouse ever with muddiest pad with the worst mouse feet and you would able to flick just as fast, you would get tired and overflick a lot but let's stop the dumb shit
ASTEROIDCHILD [#15]no fuckin shit the point is you can achieve the same speed through training and repetition regardless of the muddiness of your pad and whatever placebo skates you put on LMFAO
Bro said placebo skates lmfao
arin2016 [#17]Bro said placebo skates lmfao
zywoo won an international event with the packaging plastic still on his skates but ya those tiger ice skates are gonna get you out of plat
SaltyMcNulty [#14]tenz could be consistent like demon1 and still play duelist if he didn't have a schizophrenic head that's obsessed with changing setup and sens. They are equally as fast.
TenZ has thousands of hours of aim training, he can change sensitivity mouse and mousepad every game it doesn't matter, he has said this himself, also he has adhd don't be an asshole
jawn [#16]you can have the heaviest mouse ever with muddiest pad with the worst mouse feet and you would able to flick just as fast, you would get tired and overflick a lot but let's stop the dumb shit
You literally can't. You will run out of mousepad before you even get to complete the flick. Mouse feet isn't about worst or best. Mouse feets literally affect speed. Mousepad isn't infinite. It ends at one fucking point. Even pros sometime run out of mousepad it's a known issue lmao
LilRickyy [#20]Next level cope. Peripherals mean nothing. Just get better 😂🙏
If you're a broke boy just say so
ASTEROIDCHILD [#18]zywoo won an international event with the packaging plastic still on his skates but ya those tiger ice skates are gonna get you out of plat
What does that even prove? We're talking about flicks and speed buddy. Not about whether you perform good or bad with packaging plastic on your skates. Bro doesn't think before he types
arin2016 [#21]You literally can't. You will run out of mousepad before you even get to complete the flick. Mouse feet isn't about worst or best. Mouse feets literally affect speed. Mousepad isn't infinite. It ends at one fucking point. Even pros sometime run out of mousepad it's a known issue lmao
lighter mice and heavier mice need the same amount of distance to complete the same flick
jawn [#19]TenZ has thousands of hours of aim training, he can change sensitivity mouse and mousepad every game it doesn't matter, he has said this himself, also he has adhd don't be an asshole
Yes true but muscle memory is still a thing. Great hand+eye coordination like him would bail him out in any radiant lobby but when you are up against the cream of the crop every little edge matters. Sticking to a sens just gives you the familiarity of what fight you can take, how you take a fight, how you strafe etc. Just Aimlabbing and raw aim doesn't give you that. If you watch demon1 and smthing play you would see what I am talking about. They take fights differently but that still works for smthing cause he is hella familiar with it.
arin2016 [#23]What does that even prove? We're talking about flicks and speed buddy. Not about whether you perform good or bad with packaging plastic on your skates. Bro doesn't think before he types
proof its placebo lil mans, keep buying gear to get out of shitlow
SaltyMcNulty [#25]Yes true but muscle memory is still a thing. Great hand+eye coordination like him would bail him out in any radiant lobby but when you are up against the cream of the crop every little edge matters. Sticking to a sens just gives you the familiarity of what fight you can take, how you take a fight, how you strafe etc. Just Aimlabbing and raw aim doesn't give you that. If you watch demon1 and smthing play you would see what I am talking about. They take fights differently but that still works for smthing cause he is hella familiar with it.
you do realize that even when he was destroying everyone in the world he was constantly changing sens right? that literally disproves your claim, he didn't start changing it one day to compensate, he has been always doing it
jawn [#24]lighter mice and heavier mice need the same amount of distance to complete the same flick
The weight doesn't matter in that case but heavier mice has a higher minimum force required to move the mouse compared to a lighter mice. It is objectively slower than a lighter mouse.
jawn [#27]you do realize that even when he was destroying everyone in the world he was constantly changing sens right? that literally disproves your claim, he didn't start changing it one day to compensate, he has been always doing it
You really think his quality got worse since 2021 so he can't sht on players like that anymore? LMAO He is still as good and his aim is still as good if not better but it didn't improve as much to catch up to these guys and the quality of pro play these days. Aspas, demon1 etc have better aim that anyone he competed against at that time.
ASTEROIDCHILD [#26]proof its placebo lil mans, keep buying gear to get out of shitlow
Boosted shitter probably has the best setup in the world but is mad that he can't reach diamond without his squad so goes around online spreading "peripherals doesn't matter" propaganda to keep his ego in check
arin2016 [#28]The weight doesn't matter in that case but heavier mice has a higher minimum force required to move the mouse compared to a lighter mice. It is objectively slower than a lighter mouse.
it is, but you can complete the same movements as long as the sensor is good, lighter mouse and different surface mousepads are used because of comfort not performance issues
SaltyMcNulty [#29]You really think his quality got worse since 2021 so he can't sht on players like that anymore? LMAO He is still as good and his aim is still as good if not better but it didn't improve as much to catch up to these guys and the quality of pro play these days. Aspas, demon1 etc have better aim that anyone he competed against at that time.
TenZ has likely hit his ceiling mechanically which is still around aspas and demon1 level, i don't see your point
ASTEROIDCHILD [#18]zywoo won an international event with the packaging plastic still on his skates but ya those tiger ice skates are gonna get you out of plat
And Zywoo was one the first pros to use lightweight honeycomb mice in a Csgo scene filled with zowie mice users a few years ago
jawn [#32]TenZ has likely hit his ceiling mechanically which is still around aspas and demon1 level, i don't see your point
There are 3 aspects of aiming. 1. mouse movement 2. hand+ eye coordination 3. movement 4. muscle memory. So even if he has his 3 perks maxed out hes not gonna win against a guy with all 4. That's where he hit his ceiling. His raw aim is better than any other pro imo but in-game that familiarity factor really matters. Imagine he stuck to similar settings for like 2 yrs at least. He would have been unstoppable
jawn [#31]it is, but you can complete the same movements as long as the sensor is good, lighter mouse and different surface mousepads are used because of comfort not performance issues
You saying "it is" is not going to make it true brother when everyone who owns two types of mousepads and two types of mice can check this themselves. A lighter mouse with Tiger ice installed is going to flick much faster than the heavy mouse with hotline installed. That's not even factoring the mousepads which change everything.
There are glide test videos for almost every mousepad and you can literally see some pads where the mouse glides super fast and some pads where it barely glides.
SaltyMcNulty [#35]There are 3 aspects of aiming. 1. mouse movement 2. hand+ eye coordination 3. movement 4. muscle memory. So even if he has his 3 perks maxed out hes not gonna win against a guy with all 4. That's where he hit his ceiling. His raw aim is better than any other pro imo but in-game that familiarity factor really matters. Imagine he stuck to similar settings for like 2 yrs at least. He would have been unstoppable
how is muscle memory different than the other 3 lol, also multiple aim trainers and tenz have said muscle memory isn't really a thing in aiming
arin2016 [#36]You saying "it is" is not going to make it true brother when everyone who owns two types of mousepads and two types of mice can check this themselves. A lighter mouse with Tiger ice installed is going to flick much faster than the heavy mouse with hotline installed. That's not even factoring the mousepads which change everything.
There are glide test videos for almost every mousepad and you can literally see some pads where the mouse glides super fast and some pads where it barely glides.
it will only flick faster with the same force applied, you can flick any mouse just as fast if you apply enough force buddy, it's simple
SAMPV6 [#38]LOL it's so not the mouse
Obviously the mouse isn't all there is to it, it plays a part. It's not that hard of a concept to understand.
arin2016 [#41]Obviously the mouse isn't all there is to it, it plays a part. It's not that hard of a concept to understand.
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jawn [#40]it will only flick faster with the same force applied, you can flick any mouse just as fast if you apply enough force buddy, it's simple
"you can flick any mouse just as fast if you apply enough force buddy, it's simple"
Applying more force makes it move faster! Shocking discovery. So I am completely right that heavy mouse is objectively slower than a lighter mouse, since it requires more force than a lighter mice. Thank you for reiterating my point.
jawn [#37]how is muscle memory different than the other 3 lol, also multiple aim trainers and tenz have said muscle memory isn't really a thing in aiming
wdym? It's very different. muscle memory is like a memory stored in a Hard drive where's hand+eye coordination is like computation(cpu), you see something and your brain calculates how much to move your hand n shit.
arin2016 [#44]"you can flick any mouse just as fast if you apply enough force buddy, it's simple"
Applying more force makes it move faster! Shocking discovery. So I am completely right that heavy mouse is objectively slower than a lighter mouse, since it requires more force than a lighter mice. Thank you for reiterating my point.
speed= distance/time
if you can move both mice the same distance in the same time they're equally as fast, force is not in the equation
SaltyMcNulty [#45]wdym? It's very different. muscle memory is like a memory stored in a Hard drive where's hand+eye coordination is like computation(cpu), you see something and your brain calculates how much to move your hand n shit.
in this instance wouldn't muscle memory contain the other elements?
jawn [#48]in this instance wouldn't muscle memory contain the other elements?
why would it? you still use all the other elements and muscle memory complements them. It's like a catalyst.
SaltyMcNulty [#49]why would it? you still use all the other elements and muscle memory complements them. It's like a catalyst.
because every instance of hand eye cooordination movement etc gets recorded in muscle memory and then gets reused, which means muscle memory is the vessel
jawn [#50]because every instance of hand eye cooordination movement etc gets recorded in muscle memory and then gets reused, which means muscle memory is the vessel
If that's the case you refine your aim as you build muscle memory no? Cz you make flicks it's just whose micro flicks/micro adjustments are more accurate. As you build muscle memory your micro adjustments get better as well.
SaltyMcNulty [#51]If that's the case you refine your aim as you build muscle memory no? Cz you make flicks it's just whose micro flicks/micro adjustments are more accurate. As you build muscle memory your micro adjustments get better as well.
yes theoretically, ig aim trainers think muscle memory only can get you so far in that path idk
jawn [#52]yes theoretically, ig aim trainers think muscle memory only can get you so far in that path idk
That's the wrong way to think about it imo. It gives you that edge. If your hand+eye coordination, mouse movement is shit then your muscle memory won't help much.
ASTEROIDCHILD [#15]no fuckin shit the point is you can achieve the same speed through training and repetition regardless of the muddiness of your pad and whatever placebo skates you put on LMFAO
glass mouseskates are way faster than PTFE, he's not getting those flicks off a control pad with PTFE or glass, imo and bro says "its not the peripherals" then when I prove its the peripherals says no fucking shit LMFAOOO fucking clown, you cant receive the same level of control or speed on the same sense without 1. having glass skates or ptfe 2. a speed or control pad, if you do it's insanely tiring to play on a low sens like demon1 and have to move your mouse 2 times to do a 360.
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