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Moatz's Takeaways So Far

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#25
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(1) - I think ur confusing the yrs. Shaz, Steel & FNS were competing for that spot in 21. Steel had been dropped from 100T in 21 & played tier 2 for the entity of 22. In 22, NA was relatively unanimous abt Fenis
(4) - True but if ur looking at it like that, Crashies would be the best. Sacy had the edge in 22 but in 23, Crashies played many more games internationally. Sacy only played 1 where they lost to FNC. In addition, Crashies was tied with nzr for the best iniator stats in the Americas league as seen here: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league
At Tokyo, he was the 3rd highest rated sova after rb & c0m.
When NRG & SEN faced, Crashies performed well on sova. Meanwhile, Zekken was the one on sova and not sacy as seen here: https://www.vlr.gg/183781/nrg-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w2
(7) - I will check them out for sure
(10) - I agree maps win games but if ur 1 round away from losing to 100T, there is no way they can be placed in the loud/nrg tier as of now

#26
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(1) no I am not, Steel still had his supporters at the time of masters 2022 because he was still on a mental health break (he was not dropped from 100T, he removed himself)
(4) we're getting WAYYY off topic my first rebuttal was saying that sacy's skye was servicable LMFAO
(10)- There is always a barrier team between tiers, Lev is that barrier team currently until further notice

#27
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(1) - From what I saw from pros who were discussing igls on their streams, about 75% said fns, 15% said saadhak, and the remaining 10% split between shaz & steel were mostly vlr users. Idk abt the SA scene though. They were prolly like 80-20 for Saadhak & Fns
(4) - I can agree that it's servicable but he is doing significantly better on sova so there has to be some issue. The best sova comment caught me off guard which is why we went off topic. Crashies was better last yr but I'd say sacy is still top 3 though
(10) - 100T was expected to be 2nd worst NA team after EG. I think SEN should be that barrier & not LEV

#28
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  1. much more 90-10 saadhak because of zombs NA and BR had a rivalry for a while
  2. i expected them to be better than C9 and thus far i'd say they have been (this is more due to me HATING how vanity igl's he always overcooks when he can just brute force stuff for a guranteed win in matches where he just has aimers (lock\in where he had yay and vs mibr when he had oxy are 2 examples)
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