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Game changers, and the increase of transphobia

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Aivi

Now that map 2 is over, I wanted to make this thread just to shed awareness of the correlation between GC and transphobia.
As a trans person, some of the comments I have seen on this site have been disgusting, I shouldn’t really have expected more, but it feels like the threads are never on the actual Valorant being played, but whom can be the most controversial, without getting banned
Despite being trans, even I was critical of the roster EG put together, and that criticism only increased after the keenc situation. Riot made it clear that they were attempting to put more effort into the ‘screening’ process of players, but the Malibu and Keenc situation disproved that. That split was nightmarish for trans people as myself and others, as all the threads were basically just transphobic. (In retrospect, keenc and Malibu deserved the hate), but for the players who identified as NB, there is a clear line between criticism, and hatred.

Now the flor situation is very different, yes flor is transgender, but that’s it, she’s transgender, and actually is transitioning. Yes she is absolutely cracked at val, but I don’t think that would be any different if she was assigned female at birth. GC is meant to be a space where gender minorities can be represented in an open and accepting space. Comments calling her ‘he’, or mentioning her ‘adams Apple’ or saying she should get ‘surgery’ or take ‘hormones’, is uncalled for and just mean. Flor is still young, and a person like the rest of us, let her live her life how she wants to live it.
Us trans people are humans, We live our lives just like everyone else, and we don’t even want your respect, we just dont want to be hated for existing and wanting to feel comfortable in our bodies
This is very long, and no one will probably read it, but if one person reads it and changes their mind even in the slightest way, then I know I’ve done good
And if it gets deleted, well, to the silent but strong trans community on vlr, I tried :)

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juststormmm
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not readin allat but i agree

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Aivi
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Fair enough, I just had to put it out there

#3
yukky
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W

#4
acels2
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allat but agree

#6
ash_knuckles
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thoughts on twistzz leaving faze?

#20
acels2
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he should have joined vitality but instead he decides to play with comediaN

#9
ash_knuckles
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....

#7
NexusFPS
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People just like to be mean for no reason, until people start being mean to them.

#10
brahianv
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What you mean no reason you really just believe what you write?

#16
NexusFPS
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Honestly in this site, yes

#14
Aivi
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Yeah, it sucks, I wish there was more talk on the actual val being played and less on the players

#8
kaninv
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W

#11
j3bx5597
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W post.

#12
StutterSt3p
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This probably isn't going to get a great response, but thanks for trying. W post

#17
Aivi
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Yeah I know, but even if one person reads it and changes their perspective a tiny bit, then that’s a good enough response for me

#24
StutterSt3p
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That's absolutely fair, it always helps to try I guess.

#13
TheHardStuckImmortal
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VLR is a subjugation of edgy teenagers and idiots whose entire worldview is constructed on the opinions and so called "facts" that they get from their echo chamber that most often than not are dog-whistle dogshit narratives on short-form media content. Once you actually try to establish a proper discussion to engage them they try to avoid it as much as possible and refute to making ad hominems cause they are threatened by actual stats and facts that disrupt their narrative. They are stubborn, young and we can only hope that they grow up and touch grass.

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De-addy
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Aivi respectfully you got it all wrong we never hated transgendor people , we just don't like things like i identify as something . transgender are immportant part of community and people misunderstod this by there is nothing like transphobic it's more of phobic of some wierd people who identify as weird stuff such as dog, disable . i saw a girl identify as disable allat wut is that shit

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juststormmm
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u sure bro? cuz i saw a lot of goofy mfs hating on a player just because shes good

#23
B1itz
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Those are people rage-baiting on tiktok its not actually real, even if it was real its entirely unrelated to trans people and not what we are talking about

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Aivi
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This is in reference to the comments made towards the gc players, especially flor, which have been disgusting. No one is Identifying as a dog, that’s a whole different situation/problem. GC is open to trans/nb people, yet people are hostile to that notion

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De-addy
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i have no problem with trans but what the hell is non binary ?

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Aivi
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Just someone who doesn’t Identify with male or female, I can understand why you might find it dumb, and you don’t have to respect it, but just don’t hate on people who identify that way

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De-addy
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well the reason why i hate it is because they create confusions and makes people hate trans in confusion which is wrong

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B1itz
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Transphobes wont read this, transphobia is built on being uneducated and viewing trans people as not people, as soon as you humanize trans people they stop paying attention

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LokiFc
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If valorant was played by the 60yo people, I would understand... but this response from young people is really sad to see. But, well, incels.

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orthoboy
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W thread but assigned biological males dont belong to GC and riot need to change that if flor directly played t2/t3 without gc i think she would have never gotten this popular ig she can get popular by her clips but still thats unfair because she would have definitely started playing fps games younger than most females in GC

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B1itz
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meL says she has been playing shooter games since she was ten, should we ban her because she has an advantage over the girls who didnt start playing that young?

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orthoboy
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thats why she is good but gc scene is to empower new female to touch fps games at younger age so assigned biological males don't belong here

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GreyDaze
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Gc is for marginalized communities as per riot and trans belongs to that

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orthoboy
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then many people would stay male until 15 and just change their identity to play in gc scene which goes against what riot wants

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GreyDaze
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Trust me no one would do that. Almost ppl would fake being non binary and riot needs to figure something out for that but no one cares enough to become trans just to play in gc

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orthoboy
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yeah you are right there might be 0 in 100 but can you guarantee that there will be no one in 10000 or 100000 people

#39
Aivi
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Well no, Riot have made it clear that a ‘screening’ process will be implemented for GC, how good it’ll be in stopping stuff like this? Who knows. However it should limit these actions

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De-addy
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trans are not biological male right ?

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FaceNeck
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Game Changers is not a woman-only league. Spend 5 minutes out of your day to read the expectations Riot has set out for GC so you can stop saying dumb shit.

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LifeIsALie
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idgaf about what your gender is , i couldnt care less, I only start caring when the rights of other people are infringed upon, the female population is much bigger and needs a space separate from the rest to increase participation in esports, trans and any other community should participate only in open tournaments with males

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last time a trans woman played an esports tournament with men (Remilia in LCS), she received so much hate and harassment from the community that she had to quit mid split, if you really cared about cis women spaces like you claim you do, you would worry less about denouncing trans players in GC and more about making sure the community ins't transphobic and that every kind of person is able to safely play in the mixed scenario.

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Kryomeister
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She was the girl who had a sex transition surgery under contract with LCS team , fly to asian country to make and gone wrong and killed herself? I remember to hear that history a few years ago

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vinibd2
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yes it's her, pretty tragic story

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