Updated version of my previous list before challengers:
Rules: no ex franchise plrs and no m80
Old version: https://www.vlr.gg/276114/best-none-franchise-players-na
HM: seven,clear,skuba, v1c, zeldris,
I just wanna see how this ages
destroylonely [#2]flor over skuba and v1c? crazy statement
She has way less opportunities than both, imo she is better
Edit: what I meant was she has less opportunities to prove herself as a capable player with no tier 2 team surrounding her and few matches vs t2 teams
OkOkay [#3]She has way less opportunities than both, imo she is better
Edit: what I meant was she has less opportunities to prove herself as a capable player with no tier 2 team surrounding her and few matches vs t2 teams
imo ur braindead. dont even know how you managed to put xxif above moose and have any of ur last 3 on this list. where the fuck is add3r and wedid
OkOkay [#3]She has way less opportunities than both, imo she is better
Edit: what I meant was she has less opportunities to prove herself as a capable player with no tier 2 team surrounding her and few matches vs t2 teams
I actually think these people just dont watch flor and how insane she is. She will def be on a Tier 1 or High Tier 2 team In 2 Years or Less.
Jitu [#4]imo ur braindead. dont even know how you managed to put xxif above moose and have any of ur last 3 on this list. where the fuck is add3r and wedid
You can’t just add everyone on a winning team if u put some other players in their position they could do better but both of those deserve hm
Shawn23 [#5]I actually think these people just dont watch flor and how insane she is. She will def be on a Tier 1 or High Tier 2 team In 2 Years or Less.
Farming gc give you more money, rather than hard try on t2. I dont think there's a t2 team willing to pay her more than gc team.
OkOkay [#6]You can’t just add everyone on a winning team if u put some other players in their position they could do better but both of those deserve hm
dude moose was almost the highest rated sentinel in challengers on one of the most losing teams in the tournament. hes undeniably better than XXiF, always has been and always will be.
add3r and wedid didn't win much of anything either, they literally had to play relegation
DrudaL [#7]Farming gc give you more money, rather than hard try on t2. I dont think there's a t2 team willing to pay her more than gc team.
you can say farming, but you can clearly just watch a few games and see how good her mechanics are, even look on her twitter at clips theres only a few tier 1 players with insane aim like thatt, just stop being in denial.
Shawn23 [#12]you can say farming, but you can clearly just watch a few games and see how good her mechanics are, even look on her twitter at clips theres only a few tier 1 players with insane aim like thatt, just stop being in denial.
Tf denial? What I mean is there's almost 0 chance she will be at t1 or high t2, if she still in gc team.
DrudaL [#13]Tf denial? What I mean is there's almost 0 chance she will be at t1 or high t2, if she still in gc team.
she just turned 18 bro... and shes already said shes going to not stay in GC much longer on her twitter so what r u waffling about
Shawn23 [#15]she just turned 18 bro... and shes already said shes going to not stay in GC much longer on her twitter so what r u waffling about
U r the one waffling here say I'm denial, I literally the same thing about she need to get out of gc team lmao
DrudaL [#18]U r the one waffling here say I'm denial, I literally the same thing about she need to get out of gc team lmao
and she is...... so what r u trying to say
Shawn23 [#19]and she is...... so what r u trying to say
with flors current skill theres probably a 90% chance that she still will not make tier 2 NA let alone tier 1. Mechanically flor could be tier 2 and maybe tier 1 but just watching every gc player play they lack the depth needed for tier 2 which is purely just from the gc scene being behind the main t1 scene. Flor is good but no way is she top 10 for best tier 2 players
Zerphyr1 [#21]with flors current skill theres probably a 90% chance that she still will not make tier 2 NA let alone tier 1. Mechanically flor could be tier 2 and maybe tier 1 but just watching every gc player play they lack the depth needed for tier 2 which is purely just from the gc scene being behind the main t1 scene. Flor is good but no way is she top 10 for best tier 2 players
I can tell another person that hasnt watched flor.... If you can give me any reason why she shouldnt be considered a top player in NA outside of Tier 1 that dosent include " She plays vs gamechangers " Then PLEASE tell me... I watch her and know her weaknesses and stregths and they all can be fixed with proper coaching but you 2 all you say is shes playing GC players.... Please name me any flaws in her game. If not HUSH.
Shawn23 [#22]I can tell another person that hasnt watched flor.... If you can give me any reason why she shouldnt be considered a top player in NA outside of Tier 1 that dosent include " She plays vs gamechangers " Then PLEASE tell me... I watch her and know her weaknesses and stregths and they all can be fixed with proper coaching but you 2 all you say is shes playing GC players.... Please name me any flaws in her game. If not HUSH.
sound like u should be a coach if u know all her strengths and weaknesses and know how to fix them.
flaws:
I am not naming tens or hundreds of examples of these as I do not have the time and don't really care what you have to say as I know what I say will not change your opinion so there is no point.
Now can you tell me why you think flor is better than players like seven or clear when flor (v1) can't even beat tier 3 NA teams
Zerphyr1 [#24]sound like u should be a coach if u know all her strengths and weaknesses and know how to fix them.
flaws:
- inconsistent aim
- often taking 1v1 duels whilst being up numbers or being up in ults.
- game sense like positioning and decision making is not as good as most tier 2 players.
I am not naming tens or hundreds of examples of these as I do not have the time and don't really care what you have to say as I know what I say will not change your opinion so there is no point.
Now can you tell me why you think flor is better than players like seven or clear when flor (v1) can't even beat tier 3 NA teams
inconsistent aim is invalid but I will agree with the other 2... and what does that mean ? Proper coaching will fix that with no ease which she hasnt expereinced with and as you get older you tend to fix. Comparing her to Misfits and V1 shes already 5x better the player and has no celing as of it. and V1 as a team is far behind her in terms of skil not saying theyre bad or anything shes just that good... she just turned 18 and younger players obv have things to work on I promise you that you will see Her on a Tier 2 team if not this season then next lmfao.
Tenzsexual [#23]No Koala what are we doing here. Nismo, Sym, Mitch, Zander, N4rrate? People like wedid deserve a shout too
it says no m80 in the rules lol
OkOkay [#11]Bro thought he was gonna be here. Keep your head up king
yup I am now depressed over a VLR post
Tenzsexual [#23]No Koala what are we doing here. Nismo, Sym, Mitch, Zander, N4rrate? People like wedid deserve a shout too
N4rrate getting picked up Tbf
Shawn23 [#26]inconsistent aim is invalid but I will agree with the other 2... and what does that mean ? Proper coaching will fix that with no ease which she hasnt expereinced with and as you get older you tend to fix. Comparing her to Misfits and V1 shes already 5x better the player and has no celing as of it. and V1 as a team is far behind her in terms of skil not saying theyre bad or anything shes just that good... she just turned 18 and younger players obv have things to work on I promise you that you will see Her on a Tier 2 team if not this season then next lmfao.
thing is that its not just about skill as well but also if the players agree to have flor on their team as some might feel uncomfortable which is what happened to meL during trials
Zerphyr1 [#36]thing is that its not just about skill as well but also if the players agree to have flor on their team as some might feel uncomfortable which is what happened to meL during trials
meL said this happened with 1 team and this was like a year or two ago not in recent time.
Jitu [#8]dude moose was almost the highest rated sentinel in challengers on one of the most losing teams in the tournament. hes undeniably better than XXiF, always has been and always will be.
add3r and wedid didn't win much of anything either, they literally had to play relegation
Xxif was good when Pittsburgh Knights (my fav team) still existed😢
Shawn23 [#37]meL said this happened with 1 team and this was like a year or two ago not in recent time.
no this was 1 month ago
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