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ISO is underwhelmingly mid

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#1
jupiterr
  1. No get out of jail free movement card. The little “E” signature ability is very impractical. For example, in scenarios where 2 enemies are shooting @ you; and let’s say you kill 1. Anyone w/ a brain is not shooting the damn orb above the dead carcass of the first guy, they will just try to transfer and kill the second because by the time your little shield activates from shooting the orb it’s already gone since the other opponent is shooting you.

    • the best duelists, Jett and Raze (Reyna to an extent in certain maps) are used so often because they have that ability to get one and get out if needed, all you have to do against ISO is just hold down left click and he’s dead
  2. The “Q” vulnerabilities in reality should probably be flashes, because it just doesn’t really seem like a duelist ability if we’re being honest.

  3. The wall is a decent ability for specific situations but not all because of the lack of control and width, but I think it’s fine where it is (otherwise it would just be a better harbor). Would definitely be good on haven, maybe lotus. Maps like breeze definitely wouldn’t really suit this ability with so many different defender angles

  4. The ult lowkey ehh I’m ngl. There are so many scenarios where this would just suck in general but let’s start with positives.

    • stalls the post plant by taking out let’s say the KJ on a retake before they can ult (and vice versa on defense) but can easily be countered if your opponents are smart and try to stand in front of the KJ so they get taken instead (since the ult takes the closest proximity enemy)
    • low time and 1v1 post plant. The animation and time before the barriers drop in the ult (3s?) will buy you extra time even if you get clapped
    • take out judge campers if you know they’re going to be nearby for an easy 1v1 win

Negatives:

  • if you’re in a 1v2, it honestly doesn’t matter if you kill the first guy because even with your little orb after coming out of the ult, the enemy already knows where you are and just waits for you like a Phoenix ult. Only difference is that they can’t knife you but they are already pre-aiming at you and unless they’re silver, they just have to hold down the shoot button and you’re dead.
  • while not exactly a 50-50, more like a 55-45 because you get two walls to the enemy’s one wall off the start to play around, if your opponent is better this could easily put your team at a numbers disadvantage with no lasting damage or effects done to the enemy. You would just have to hope your team is holding the spawn point of the enemy but by that time their teammates would already draw your teams attention by fighting them which just sucks.
  • a good op player’s wet dream. They simply hold the edge of your walls and when you swing it’s a free kill for them.

Overall thoughts:
Probably won’t be used much in pro play, mostly a comp agent. Also would have to be paired with another duelist to find good entry value (or double initiator with flashes)

#2
jupiterr
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Allat ^

#3
vollizie
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I ain't reading all that, I'm happy for u tho, or sorry that happened

#4
Simp4S0m
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Blud wants another get out of jail free agent 💀

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lielahh
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Makes solo anchoring killjoys vipers cyphers etc much worse, denies info. Iso can just stall time in his ult arena and deny the info baiting rotates and stuff. Fits closer to Yoru’s duelist niche but still looks like he could be made to work pretty well

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jupiterr
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Simp4S0m [#4]

Blud wants another get out of jail free agent 💀

I’m not requesting changes, just saying what I think about the “half” get out of jail free card ability and explaining why ISO is mid

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lielahh [#5]

Makes solo anchoring killjoys vipers cyphers etc much worse, denies info. Iso can just stall time in his ult arena and deny the info baiting rotates and stuff. Fits closer to Yoru’s duelist niche but still looks like he could be made to work pretty well

Can you even buy time? won't the wall disappear after like 3 seconds into the ult

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jupiterr
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lielahh [#5]

Makes solo anchoring killjoys vipers cyphers etc much worse, denies info. Iso can just stall time in his ult arena and deny the info baiting rotates and stuff. Fits closer to Yoru’s duelist niche but still looks like he could be made to work pretty well

Do we know if the utility pre-placed before getting ulted still works or is disabled?

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lielahh
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jupiterr [#8]

Do we know if the utility pre-placed before getting ulted still works or is disabled?

Kj def will be disabled Not sure about cypher or viper

#10
TheLoque
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Riot said themselves "no mobility or healing abilities" what do you mean no get out of jail free card

#11
Ullyr
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sorry bro come back to this when demon1 something izu and smoggy farms everyone.

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lielahh
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Simp4S0m [#7]

Can you even buy time? won't the wall disappear after like 3 seconds into the ult

Didnt realise how it worked Thought the walls stayed up

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jupiterr
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Ullyr [#11]

sorry bro come back to this when demon1 something izu and smoggy farms everyone.

Wouldn’t have anything to do with the agent, just their raw skill which would make the agent look viable. But other not so cracked duelists, let’s say the SKRossi’s of franchise, would have trouble getting value from ISO

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jupiterr
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lielahh [#12]

Didnt realise how it worked Thought the walls stayed up

They go down after 3 seconds

#15
funny_prank
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Allat but this is a cold take everyone know this

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