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How is iso ult not good?

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#1
tls127

Or at the very least decent
Literally can eliminate lineup larrys in postplant as ct.

Also it's so easy in a 1v1 postplant with cheese jiggles and jumppeeks when it's planted far away so this ult can eliminate that

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its just not

#3
cohnr
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or you lose the 1v1 and its gg

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nematoma
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it is if you have cracked aim just see the derke video i think he explains it really well

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Typer
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It's work in lower ranks below plat.

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Mortadelo
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Or even to entry, would you rather to enter a site wags instead a cypher string holder, dash in with Jett knives or Iso ult??? I think iso ult is much better

People are not seeing the potential

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cohnr [#3]

or you lose the 1v1 and its gg

It’s not just a 1 vs 1 tho, you have a massive adcventage

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cohnr [#3]

or you lose the 1v1 and its gg

Better chances at a favourable 1v1 than the scenarios I just mentioned

Also I feel like it's like a 70/30 chance to win considering they have to flick a fair bit while you just have to adjust slightly

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Mortadelo [#6]

Or even to entry, would you rather to enter a site wags instead a cypher string holder, dash in with Jett knives or Iso ult??? I think iso ult is much better

People are not seeing the potential

when like 3 people play on the site then he can only ult one and the rest of the team has to entry against two without duelist

#10
tls127
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Like imagine you are aspas and just ult fns lmaoo

#11
Mortadelo
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Also underrated use, ult the Operator. He literally has to gamble where you’re gonna be or make an insane flick

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tls127
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Liem [#9]

when like 3 people play on the site then he can only ult one and the rest of the team has to entry against two without duelist

He definitely won't be used as a solo duelist tho

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Orangepanda
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Niche scenario= not good but also not bad

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Liem [#9]

when like 3 people play on the site then he can only ult one and the rest of the team has to entry against two without duelist

First of all you’re supposed to enter the site with 2 people not the one with 3, and it is very often than when you enter a site is not a 5 vs 5 anymore.

And wdym your team has to enter the site without a duelist?

Also you can throw your utility and then ult, helping your teamates either way

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BLuko
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very situational and i can't imagine winning that 1v1 to realize you need to still kill the rest of the enemy team lmao

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Hard2Decipher
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Mortadelo [#11]

Also underrated use, ult the Operator. He literally has to gamble where you’re gonna be or make an insane flick

Niche scenario and I believe you can dodge the ultimate like the deadlock ult.

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tls127 [#8]

Better chances at a favourable 1v1 than the scenarios I just mentioned

Also I feel like it's like a 70/30 chance to win considering they have to flick a fair bit while you just have to adjust slightly

you have an advantage yes, I wouldn't say it's 70/30 at all

point still stands, you can lose the 1v1 and it's gg

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tls127
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Orangepanda [#13]

Niche scenario= not good but also not bad

Definitely not niche. Post plant mollies and lineups legit happen every time esp since in pro play they play retake instead of fighting for site

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Hard2Decipher [#16]

Niche scenario and I believe you can dodge the ultimate like the deadlock ult.

It's almost instant tho. I feel like if you were to dodge it would be more of the enemy iso missing than you actually dodging

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cohnr [#17]

you have an advantage yes, I wouldn't say it's 70/30 at all

point still stands, you can lose the 1v1 and it's gg

You can also die while entering a site with Jett so what is that supposed to mean?Or with Raze/ Reyna/Neon, same concept

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Mortadelo [#20]

You can also die while entering a site with Jett so what is that supposed to mean?Or with Raze/ Reyna/Neon, same concept

you have a much better chance with raze or reyna or even neon than with iso

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Mortadelo [#20]

You can also die while entering a site with Jett so what is that supposed to mean?Or with Raze/ Reyna/Neon, same concept

Jett dash isn't an ult + your team can trade you

#23
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cohnr [#22]

Jett dash isn't an ult + your team can trade you

I mean entering with ult

#24
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Mortadelo [#14]

First of all you’re supposed to enter the site with 2 people not the one with 3, and it is very often than when you enter a site is not a 5 vs 5 anymore.

And wdym your team has to enter the site without a duelist?

Also you can throw your utility and then ult, helping your teamates either way

but you dont know if 2 or 3 people are site most of the time

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cohnr [#22]

Jett dash isn't an ult + your team can trade you

on top of that reyna has blind and neon has concuss. iso just has a wall that goes down and doesnt even slow

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Mortadelo [#23]

I mean entering with ult

Jett ult is used on eco rounds and you can get more than 1 kill, no matter what the max amount of kills Iso can get with an ult usage is 1 and he needs to be on a buy and he can die and completely waste the ult and possibly throw the round that way

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Saikko [#21]

you have a much better chance with raze or reyna or even neon than with iso

We’ll have to see that you have to get outplayed very much to lose the duel. But regardless the difference is that you can take this duel without exposing yourself to being killed by a third person unlike with the other 3

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Saikko [#25]

on top of that reyna has blind and neon has concuss. iso just has a wall that goes down and doesnt even slow

Iso wall is really strong tf you mean

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Saikko [#25]

on top of that reyna has blind and neon has concuss. iso just has a wall that goes down and doesnt even slow

that wall can also be countered with a molly on reaction because its slow af to fully activate and it is very thin

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Mortadelo [#28]

Iso wall is really strong tf you mean

his other abilities cant give him and advantage the instant a fight starts. idek if fragile status does anything to the opponent

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cohnr [#17]

you have an advantage yes, I wouldn't say it's 70/30 at all

point still stands, you can lose the 1v1 and it's gg

Also we’re assuming we both have rifles, this is a massive counter to Operators

#32
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Mortadelo [#31]

Also we’re assuming we both have rifles, this is a massive counter to Operators

or they hit the shot with the Op and you lose

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cohnr [#32]

or they hit the shot with the Op and you lose

They have to either make the quickscope/flick of their lives or guess exactly where you are which is not likely. If your argument to anything is gonna be he can die that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard

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Mortadelo [#33]

They have to either make the quickscope/flick of their lives or guess exactly where you are which is not likely. If your argument to anything is gonna be he can die that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard

I don't think you realise how shit it is to have an ult that gives you a barely favoured fight. Think about Raze ult, scares most people out of the site + if you do see someone and they stay to fight you, you're pretty likely getting 1 and the whole site even if you die. Jett ult gives you a gun on eco rounds that is 100% accurate when moving, self-explanatory why that is good. What does Iso ult give you? A 1v1 with maybe 60/40 odds at best? Plus the rest of his kit isn't that good in the first place? It is a gimmicky ult that is in no way reliable which is incredibly important have a good ult in Valorant

#35
Zapkhiel
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The ult is not bad but you need the skill to win the 1v1

#36
Mortadelo
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cohnr [#34]

I don't think you realise how shit it is to have an ult that gives you a barely favoured fight. Think about Raze ult, scares most people out of the site + if you do see someone and they stay to fight you, you're pretty likely getting 1 and the whole site even if you die. Jett ult gives you a gun on eco rounds that is 100% accurate when moving, self-explanatory why that is good. What does Iso ult give you? A 1v1 with maybe 60/40 odds at best? Plus the rest of his kit isn't that good in the first place? It is a gimmicky ult that is in no way reliable which is incredibly important have a good ult in Valorant

We'll have to see, I really do not think you're seeing the potential. Let's wait then

#37
LouBag
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Get a kill, shoot the shield, immediately ult them.

You enter the Ult with a peak advantage and a hs shield.

You open the round with 2 kills.

#38
Okoretro
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Liem [#24]

but you dont know if 2 or 3 people are site most of the time

midfrag in low diamond take sadly

#39
Hard2Decipher
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LouBag [#37]

Get a kill, shoot the shield, immediately ult them.

You enter the Ult with a peak advantage and a hs shield.

You open the round with 2 kills.

Not everybody is silver where players bait each other, in higher ranks and pro play people trade each other. Once you get a kill the second guy who is with the one you killed wont wait for 5-10 seconds to let you take the shield, and then let you use ult. He will peek and kill you while you're doing the ult animation or will play retake with the rest of his teammates.

#40
MrBaye35
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It's OP when used correctly. People who say it's bad are the same people who thought Deadlock ult were any good aka below plat folk.

#41
Liem
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Okoretro [#38]

midfrag in low diamond take sadly

Mutt 2-0 T10

#42
SnooTangerines
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Saikko [#21]

you have a much better chance with raze or reyna or even neon than with iso

Bro clearly has not played against a KJ or Cypher in a rank above Plat.

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