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Why Cloud and Shao >> Crashies

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Yessirskiiii
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Lil bro LOCKIN happened like 6 months ago. Now do Champs stats 🙏🙏🙏. Also Crashies is not comparable to Shao in any way

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TrialRunnr
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you want me to disregard only achievement b0tvi has this year?

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mrGoudas
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Shitmericas fans when they invalidate lockin as a "mickey mouse tourney" but then use lockin games to prove their point 🤣

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TrialRunnr
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Lock in was a mickey mouse cus there was no lower bracket, this does not change result of the games, go easy on drugs big man, your brainrot is showing

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mrGoudas
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One of the biggest copes I've seen, but u have optic flair so thats all i needed to know

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TrialRunnr
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Crazy for you to say that when this thread is full of the most coping fans itw

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mrGoudas
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Question, do you think that 2022 optic would beat current fnatic?

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TrialRunnr
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2022 Optic and 2022 LOUD would probably have the best shot at beating them tbh, cant guarantee it for sure but they are much better than the current competition

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GrimmjowJaegerjaquez
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In the chamber meta, both teams might have a chance of beating the current FNC but in the current meta, they are gonna be rolled by FNC.

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TrialRunnr
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LOUD almost beat Fnatic with the new roster bruh and the old roster was definitely better and Yay is a very competant Jett if he gets enough practice

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mrGoudas
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They almost beat fnc cause fnc was choking hard on lotus, tokyo fnc would 3 0 loud any day of the week

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GrimmjowJaegerjaquez
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If I recall FNC were also a new roster if u were calling LOUD with the new roster with the same core.
Yet they were 2-0 every team till the grand finals and were about to be 3-0 LOUD if they didn't choke on the third map.
Seems clear to me that FNC current roster has far more depth than LOUD

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hekzy
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Wow, this the lowest IQ statement I've seen in vlr. Congrats. It's not even a statement it's a paradox.

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TrialRunnr
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a tournament can be less valid cus of bad formatting
but the results of the matches still remains the same

its really not hard to separate the two, please get your iq checked before commenting on stuff.

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mrGoudas
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So why is fnatics run without dropping a single map until grandfinals discreditedif the results of the matches remain the same 🤣

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TrialRunnr
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cus of the tournament formatting? all their wins are still wins but the format had too much randomness to consider it as a real tournament
bro please stop proving you are illiterate

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mrGoudas
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This no lower bracket argument is so retarded i dont want to continue this anymore holy shit, its judt strsight up cope, fnc would dogwalk both 2022 optic and 2022 loud even in chamber meta thats all there is to it

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TrialRunnr
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still believe that?

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Yessirskiiii
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Implying that Crashies is better than Shao is just hilarious even tho ik he's baiting

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TrialRunnr
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Just cus you cant take his cock out of your mouth and look at it from an unbiased perspective doesnt mean others cant

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number1_cNed_fan
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mfs be crying about fnatics lock in win and how its not a real tournament, then start comparing players off of their lock in stats 😭

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TrialRunnr
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Kirya
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Why are you showing a game where shao went +2 against crashies

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mrGoudas
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Cause he's braindead

#13
Yessirskiiii
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Calm down buddy

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Kirya
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?

#16
TrialRunnr
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b0tvi fans just proving their braindead thinking +2 against someone and then going -10 and costing your team the game makes you a better player 😭😭😭

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Kirya
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He went -10 cause ardiis went like +13 against him
Nrg is lucky that they have ardiis otherwise they would've lost the game

#37
EWW_EU_EWHO
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NRG kicked them out bro. quit arguing with the braindead botvi fans.. they get grouped in the 2 tournaments they get carried to and still dont stop waffling on this website. Its disgraceful

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Moiraine
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Please never ever utter the word Shao in the same sentence as Crashies. Its extremely disrespectful and dumb. Thx

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TrialRunnr
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sorry I wont disrespect Crashies like that ever again

#18
mrGoudas
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Holy W trashies could only dream of achieving half the peak of Shao as a player

#19
Yessirskiiii
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Crashies was and is very good but was he ever even clear cut top 10? Shao was undeniably the best player in the world for a while

#22
Moiraine
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Crashies this year is NOT good.
He was p good last year thats it. Comparisons with shao are ludicrous.

#28
Typer
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Either u don't watch the game or ur dumb

#35
EWW_EU_EWHO
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You are right. Shao is washed and Crashies has had him on a leash for a long time now. I believe even Trent, Xeppaa, Cuanzin, Sacy, C0M and Shazam's sova is better than Shao

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Shao>>Crashies>>>Cloud everyone knows this

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