Will you blame Aspas, Less, or LOUD as an org for not giving the best player of 2022-2023 a raise and being general scumbags regarding the entire roster's compensation?
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yes, this current loud roster just doesn't hit the same, its so weird cuz they were insane at lock//in and vct americas, but then they just somehow fell off, ik they have 1 more chance to prove themselves through lower bracket, but holy shit if sacy and pancada were still here, assuming everything was going well internally, they would've won lock//in, easily won vct americas EVEN WHEN HIDING STRATS, AND gotten ATLEAST top 4 in tokyo.
trembolonaRage [#8]LOUD is absolutely correct on this matter
duelists are replaceable
Scummy org that didnt want to compensate Sacy or pancada so they left to take SEN money; that should've been the first warning that they don't care about their players
Nachtel [#9]Scummy org that didnt want to compensate Sacy or pancada so they left to take SEN money; that should've been the first warning that they don't care about their players
you realize they would need to increase their salary by like 10x?
5 BRL = 1 USD
Nachtel [#9]Scummy org that didnt want to compensate Sacy or pancada so they left to take SEN money; that should've been the first warning that they don't care about their players
every team has different budgets. u have no clue what u r talking about
deluxton [#3]Why would you blame Less?
Because he has Aspas locked in a torture chamber in the LOUD basement
widepeepofrosty [#6]yes, this current loud roster just doesn't hit the same, its so weird cuz they were insane at lock//in and vct americas, but then they just somehow fell off, ik they have 1 more chance to prove themselves through lower bracket, but holy shit if sacy and pancada were still here, assuming everything was going well internally, they would've won lock//in, easily won vct americas EVEN WHEN HIDING STRATS, AND gotten ATLEAST top 4 in tokyo.
imo they didn't look insane at VCT Americas either. even though they went 8-1, they almost lost quite a few of those matches. obviously they did great but they definitely didn't stomp like fnatic did in EMEA.
Cheddar [#11]every team has different budgets. u have no clue what u r talking about
We're talking about a championship winning team that is being given free money by Riot as an official partner and which is unique among all other franchised teams in that it prohibits its players from hiring an agent to speak on their behalf. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
LOUD was chosen specifically because they are not broke.
trembolonaRage [#10]you realize they would need to increase their salary by like 10x?
5 BRL = 1 USD
It's not as simple a situation as "LOUD has to match the salary that SEN offered Sacy and Pancada". Sacy and Pancada very clearly hold brazil dearly and they love their teammates. If LOUD had just offered a high enough salary that was higher than what they were being paid but not as high as SEN's offer I guarantee you Sacy and Pancada would've stayed with LOUD.
The issue here is that LOUD didn't evenn want to give Aspas a raise, and what's more, they prohibit him from hiring an agent to speak on his behalf. This is predatory at best and exploitative at worst
Goatified [#13]imo they didn't look insane at VCT Americas either. even though they went 8-1, they almost lost quite a few of those matches. obviously they did great but they definitely didn't stomp like fnatic did in EMEA.
You are laced for saying they didn't look insane in VCT America. why do people make a point knowing fully well that they are disingenuous?
Yessirskiiii [#4]Best player of 2022-23? I don't remember Shao playing for LOUD
Bro got -18 downvotes , n0vi flairs are crazy😭😭
Nachtel [#15]It's not as simple a situation as "LOUD has to match the salary that SEN offered Sacy and Pancada". Sacy and Pancada very clearly hold brazil dearly and they love their teammates. If LOUD had just offered a high enough salary that was higher than what they were being paid but not as high as SEN's offer I guarantee you Sacy and Pancada would've stayed with LOUD.
The issue here is that LOUD didn't evenn want to give Aspas a raise, and what's more, they prohibit him from hiring an agent to speak on his behalf. This is predatory at best and exploitative at worst
Sacy's dream was always to win something with brazil and then go somewhere else lol. He doesnt "hold brazil dearly". He holds money dearly, as it should be
Liwus [#19]Sacy's dream was always to win something with brazil and then go somewhere else lol. He doesnt "hold brazil dearly". He holds money dearly, as it should be
I also think the reason why sacy left is because of the internal drama between less and pancada
Nachtel [#14]We're talking about a championship winning team that is being given free money by Riot as an official partner and which is unique among all other franchised teams in that it prohibits its players from hiring an agent to speak on their behalf. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
LOUD was chosen specifically because they are not broke.
You little kids are too funny. Literally just typing random shit with literally zero evidence to back up your claims...
"FREE" money doesnt = unlimited money
Cheddar [#22]You little kids are too funny. Literally just typing random shit with literally zero evidence to back up your claims...
"FREE" money doesnt = unlimited money
Sorry but I can't take an illiterate's take seriously lmao
Go read the official rulebook of Riot's Valorant partnership league, everything I said is right there.
Free money does not equal unlimited money, but aspas is not asking for unlimited money. You're acting like Aspas is demanding a 5 mil dollar salary. He just wanted a raise, and if the amount he asked for was for whatever reason a bit too much, then the blame is still on the org for forcing him to negotiate on his own instead of letting him have an agent in the first place.
Loud has more than enough money for this
deluxton [#3]Why would you blame Less?
Sacy and Less had issues and now Less and Aspas.... he's really good in Val but why bro beefing with everyone ☠️☠️
Master_oGgway [#21]I also think the reason why sacy left is because of the internal drama between less and pancada
now I've heard less has had problems with sacy, aspas and pancada, wtf less??
This just goes to show that if the team mental is not good. They can’t perform. We all know Loud as Individuals are pretty fucking talented.
You can’t blame anyone in this situation. NA Orgs have money to throw around. Plus when you see problem right infront of you, you tend to create problems that weren’t even there in the first place.
blitzz_ [#25]now I've heard less has had problems with sacy, aspas and pancada, wtf less??
Bring back sacy the bully, he will show less who is alpha male
Nachtel [#23]Sorry but I can't take an illiterate's take seriously lmao
Go read the official rulebook of Riot's Valorant partnership league, everything I said is right there.
Free money does not equal unlimited money, but aspas is not asking for unlimited money. You're acting like Aspas is demanding a 5 mil dollar salary. He just wanted a raise, and if the amount he asked for was for whatever reason a bit too much, then the blame is still on the org for forcing him to negotiate on his own instead of letting him have an agent in the first place.
Loud has more than enough money for this
so u just copy pasted but still dont understand what it means? LMAOO. Stay in school kid jfc.
Cheddar [#31]so u just copy pasted but still dont understand what it means? LMAOO. Stay in school kid jfc.
kiddo failed his english classes for sure if he can't understand a rephrasing of 2 lines of text LMAO
keep reflecting your own insecurities onto me tho it's funny
Nachtel [#32]kiddo failed his english classes for sure if he can't understand a rephrasing of 2 lines of text LMAO
keep reflecting your own insecurities onto me tho it's funny
bringing up english when u can perfectly understand what im saying. jfc u arent bright. keep deflecting.
Yessirskiiii [#4]Best player of 2022-23? I don't remember Shao playing for LOUD
m8, Shao is an insane player but stop bringing unnecessary hate upon him with your braindead takes please.
Liwus [#19]Sacy's dream was always to win something with brazil and then go somewhere else lol. He doesnt "hold brazil dearly". He holds money dearly, as it should be
I agree. brothermans in BR should understand that this is a PROFESSIONAL CAREER not some reality show promoting patriotism and other stuff viewers want to see. Grass is greener on the other side for them but that does not mean they aren't Brazilians/representing BR anymore.
Cheddar [#33]bringing up english when u can perfectly understand what im saying. jfc u arent bright. keep deflecting.
that is the most toddler cope i've ever read :skull:
Nachtel [#36]that is the most toddler cope i've ever read :skull:
bringing up toddler when ur still in HS is ironic...
Maine [#17]You are laced for saying they didn't look insane in VCT America. why do people make a point knowing fully well that they are disingenuous?
He's actually right though. Fnatic looked insane. Loud comparatively did not, though they looked good.
They dropped a bunch of maps and had to stage several come backs during the season. They went 8-1 but that doesn't paint an accurate picture of their overall performance.the numbers don't lie, chill
Cheddar [#37]bringing up toddler when ur still in HS is ironic...
again with reflecting your own insecurities lol
No one is to blame
The org is absolutely right in not giving him a raise. They need to stay operational, make the numbers work, also 5 BRL = 1 Dollar, so there is no way they can match NA’s braindead salary offers. Yes. Braindead, look at sentinels and what is happening right now. Players don’t need high salaries, their performance compensation comes from winning tournaments.
Less is not to blame, the meta changes, competitiveness increases, if aspas is not comfortable on different agents then life goes on.
A player leaving a roster is not the end of the world
Nachtel [#40]again with reflecting your own insecurities lol
u post on this god awful forum every day.....u cant be older than 18. Have some shame...
Cheddar [#45]u post on this god awful forum every day.....u cant be older than 18. Have some shame...
no im just slacking off from work lmao
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