So did fl1pz instigate everything and gas light ppl to take his side or what ? I saw someone said he's been in like a couple racist controversy lately too.
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INDIAN_DETECTOR [#3]Nah he didn't gaslight, it just turned to racism, Tenten just mispoke
So both were pretty much wrong and racist but tenten did more ?
Ullyr [#4]So both were pretty much wrong and racist but tenten did more ?
only tenten is racist this time?
they already beef for a couple of times since the incident, so Fl1pz is definitely aware of tenten
fl1pz was indeed the one who insult him first, saying shit like "go talk to ur anime" and "u should talk to gojo satoru", but he attack him because he's a "weeb" from his twitter profile picture, so it's not racial whatsoever
tenten just took it too far, even if you look at the clip you can see that tenten is tilting
hanafuuji [#11]they already beef for a couple of times since the incident, so Fl1pz is definitely aware of tenten
fl1pz was indeed the one who insult him first, saying shit like "go talk to ur anime" and "u should talk to gojo satoru", but he attack him because he's a "weeb" from his twitter profile picture, so it's not racial whatsoever
tenten just took it too far, even if you look at the clip you can see that tenten is tilting
OK I see
hanafuuji [#11]they already beef for a couple of times since the incident, so Fl1pz is definitely aware of tenten
fl1pz was indeed the one who insult him first, saying shit like "go talk to ur anime" and "u should talk to gojo satoru", but he attack him because he's a "weeb" from his twitter profile picture, so it's not racial whatsoever
tenten just took it too far, even if you look at the clip you can see that tenten is tilting
okay now i'm mad that he's against a weeb like me
JiangLi [#6]imo if a player is making stereotypical comments he deserves to be mocked and gaslighted so flipz did the right thing
Also the controversy was like 2 yrs ago tho. He nd SkRossi had some exchanges
I dont know how he is like now so a punishment for smth he did long ago wouldn't be fair
no he didn’t do the right thing
the right thing is to mute and move on and not escalate the situation
Recently he has not been caught in any controversies and now seems like a chill dude. So I don't think you should judge him solely on his past behavior. But one thing is for sure he is toxic. However this is def not fl1pz's fault, this is just his regular day in ranked, TenTen just gets too emotional and take it too far.
bobkiller [#15]no he didn’t do the right thing
the right thing is to mute and move on and not escalate the situation
how so? if he muted then prolly the comments he typed in all chat would hv js fly by like another day. He made fun of him nd the situation got bigger and bcuz of that he got an appropriate punishment
Fl1pz was just toxic in this situation but not denying that he's racist too and ain't no Indian is getting offended by seeing that wiping poop shit like come on its true most of the Indians wipe their poop w their hands what's so racist about it. Same can be said for people who use tissue like they don't wipe their asses neatly and poop sticks to their ass is that a racist remark?? Not denying that he was racist but his only fault was he targeted both indians and indos 😂
Bro was just unlucky
JiangLi [#17]how so? if he muted then prolly the comments he typed in all chat would hv js fly by like another day. He made fun of him nd the situation got bigger and bcuz of that he got an appropriate punishment
no he got the content he needed
no need to fight back because it’s just gonna make both people look bad
just mute
you even admit that he escalated the situation and then tenten said racist shit
no need to get someone fired
if fl1pz muted, tenten wouldn’t have gotten fired
bobkiller [#19]no he got the content he needed
no need to fight back because it’s just gonna make both people look bad
just mute
you even admit that he escalated the situation and then tenten said racist shit
no need to get someone fired
if fl1pz muted, tenten wouldn’t have gotten fired
what content he needs lmao. Every1 alr know him in SEA
nd a racist got an appropriate punishment, why u seem unhappy. Some things shouldnt js be ignored
bobkiller [#15]no he didn’t do the right thing
the right thing is to mute and move on and not escalate the situation
if u watch the stream he alr tried to be silent, but after some round tenten start the shit talk
JiangLi [#20]what content he needs lmao. Every1 alr know him in SEA
nd a racist got an appropriate punishment, why u seem unhappy. Some things shouldnt js be ignored
listen as much as I hate racist people
i still feel bad for tenten
his career is probably ruined, he got fired and no org is gonna pick him up after this
if fl1pz didn’t escalate the situation, fl1pz could have made tenten look like a clown because tenten was already saying random shit before the racist comment, without getting anyone’s career ruined
DrudaL [#21]if u watch the stream he alr tried to be silent, but after some round tenten start the shit talk
MUTE THE GUY IN GAME
THE FUNCTION EXISTS FOR A REASON
PokerFace [#14]The one who gaslight and instigate is mimosa, and you know what he always does that, if you see another drama related to indian mimosa will instigate it to another level
Bro creaming everytime anything related to indian drama in international scene gets mentioned
I think we need to clarify: the problem between Fl1pz and Tenten became clear yesterday when tenten and his brother reached out to fl1pz to discuss the issue. So, there is no longer any conflict between them now. However, fl1pz feels sorry for the situation that happened to tenten.
The problem escalated to a great extent simply because he stray wrong racism towards India, and Indians cannot accept the racism they received. This worsened the situation. If only tenten had refrained from commenting about India, I believe the problem would not have become this severe/?
bobkiller [#22]listen as much as I hate racist people
i still feel bad for tenten
his career is probably ruined, he got fired and no org is gonna pick him up after this
if fl1pz didn’t escalate the situation, fl1pz could have made tenten look like a clown because tenten was already saying random shit before the racist comment, without getting anyone’s career ruined
idk if his career is ruined or not (probably isnt) but i dont feel bad for those type of people at all. The heated exchange alr started a few rounds ago bw them
Also fl1p actually went quite for a few rounds but TenTen still type in all chat to him
hystorez [#26]I think we need to clarify: the problem between Fl1pz and Tenten became clear yesterday when tenten and his brother reached out to fl1pz to discuss the issue. So, there is no longer any conflict between them now. However, fl1pz feels sorry for the situation that happened to tenten.
The problem escalated to a great extent simply because he stray wrong racism towards India, and Indians cannot accept the racism they received. This worsened the situation. If only tenten had refrained from commenting about India, I believe the problem would not have become this severe/?
Finally a VLRter with a brain.
hystorez [#26]I think we need to clarify: the problem between Fl1pz and Tenten became clear yesterday when tenten and his brother reached out to fl1pz to discuss the issue. So, there is no longer any conflict between them now. However, fl1pz feels sorry for the situation that happened to tenten.
The problem escalated to a great extent simply because he stray wrong racism towards India, and Indians cannot accept the racism they received. This worsened the situation. If only tenten had refrained from commenting about India, I believe the problem would not have become this severe/?
Yea if he was just normal toxic and didnt bring anything from outside the game shit woulda been just another wednesday night for fl1pz and tenten
hystorez [#26]I think we need to clarify: the problem between Fl1pz and Tenten became clear yesterday when tenten and his brother reached out to fl1pz to discuss the issue. So, there is no longer any conflict between them now. However, fl1pz feels sorry for the situation that happened to tenten.
The problem escalated to a great extent simply because he stray wrong racism towards India, and Indians cannot accept the racism they received. This worsened the situation. If only tenten had refrained from commenting about India, I believe the problem would not have become this severe/?
TenTen is an idiot though. Why say that?
Coldzera [#18]Fl1pz was just toxic in this situation but not denying that he's racist too and ain't no Indian is getting offended by seeing that wiping poop shit like come on its true most of the Indians wipe their poop w their hands what's so racist about it. Same can be said for people who use tissue like they don't wipe their asses neatly and poop sticks to their ass is that a racist remark?? Not denying that he was racist but his only fault was he targeted both indians and indos 😂
Bro was just unlucky
you must admit the whole situation is funny af from spectator wise, contract termination is too far tho I don't agree with that. 2 weeks disciplinary seems fair
but again and again mimosa still got his impressions and people still fall for his tweet, man I have enough to laugh for this week🤣🤣🤣
JiangLi [#27]idk if his career is ruined or not (probably isnt) but i dont feel bad for those type of people at all. The heated exchange alr started a few rounds ago bw them
Also fl1p actually went quite for a few rounds but TenTen still type in all chat to him
that’s what I meant, tenten was already looking like a clown, typing to himself in chat
but after that there’s no need to interact with him anymore. Fl1pz was staying quiet and he could have chosen to just continue staying quiet or muted him with the Mute Button in game
I mean if you don’t feel bad for people losing their jobs you clearly haven’t seen what real society is like
I agree that tenten’s comments were wrong, but fl1pz handled the situation horribly and now tenten’s career is probably ruined - the drama is way too big to ignore for future orgs (no thanks to m1mosa the piece of shit)
iframedeez [#31]you must admit the whole situation is funny af from spectator wise, contract termination is too far tho I don't agree with that. 2 weeks disciplinary seems fair
but again and again mimosa still got his impressions and people still fall for his tweet, man I have enough to laugh for this week🤣🤣🤣
Bro even 2weeks is harsh personally I don't think he said anything racist and was just frustrated like a random ranked player but nth being a big ass org surely don't want their reputation go down. Not a big L for tenten though considering they didn't even qualify for ascension and will be disbanding soon😂
Coldzera [#18]Fl1pz was just toxic in this situation but not denying that he's racist too and ain't no Indian is getting offended by seeing that wiping poop shit like come on its true most of the Indians wipe their poop w their hands what's so racist about it. Same can be said for people who use tissue like they don't wipe their asses neatly and poop sticks to their ass is that a racist remark?? Not denying that he was racist but his only fault was he targeted both indians and indos 😂
Bro was just unlucky
bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be disastrous.
Coldzera [#34]Bro even 2weeks is harsh personally I don't think he said anything racist and was just frustrated like a random ranked player but nth being a big ass org surely don't want their reputation go down. Not a big L for tenten though considering they didn't even qualify for ascension and will be disbanding soon😂
different culture that's why I said 2 weeks is more than enough
omoshiroioshirin [#35]bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be disastrous.
that’s not what tenten said though lil bro
it’s not even close💀💀💀
hystorez [#26]I think we need to clarify: the problem between Fl1pz and Tenten became clear yesterday when tenten and his brother reached out to fl1pz to discuss the issue. So, there is no longer any conflict between them now. However, fl1pz feels sorry for the situation that happened to tenten.
The problem escalated to a great extent simply because he stray wrong racism towards India, and Indians cannot accept the racism they received. This worsened the situation. If only tenten had refrained from commenting about India, I believe the problem would not have become this severe/?
The thing which made Indians angry was the fact that they get discriminated everytime. Have you seen the vct youtube chat. Indians get treated so badly. But they can’t do anything against the youtube comments now can they? But this time when they heard tenten doing this and they finally got a scapegoat. And all the discrimination that Indians faced was put to tenten.
bobkiller [#32]that’s what I meant, tenten was already looking like a clown, typing to himself in chat
but after that there’s no need to interact with him anymore. Fl1pz was staying quiet and he could have chosen to just continue staying quiet or muted him with the Mute Button in game
I mean if you don’t feel bad for people losing their jobs you clearly haven’t seen what real society is like
I agree that tenten’s comments were wrong, but fl1pz handled the situation horribly and now tenten’s career is probably ruined - the drama is way too big to ignore for future orgs (no thanks to m1mosa the piece of shit)
so he shouldve turned a blind eye to a racist so that we dont feel bad for a racist getting fired? If he cared so much for his career, maybe he should have basic human decency and not be racist.
INDIAN_DETECTOR [#3]Nah he didn't gaslight, it just turned to racism, Tenten just mispoke
bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be disastrous. But then people will not justify that rasism.
hungeryman [#38]The thing which made Indians angry was the fact that they get discriminated everytime. Have you seen the vct youtube chat. Indians get treated so badly. But they can’t do anything against the youtube comments now can they? But this time when they heard tenten doing this and they finally got a scapegoat. And all the discrimination that Indians faced was put to tenten.
bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be the same thing.
bobkiller [#37]that’s not what tenten said though lil bro
it’s not even close💀💀💀
yea, I mean exclude hiroshima nagasaki, thats the cause of McDonald people, but then its the same
bobkiller [#32]that’s what I meant, tenten was already looking like a clown, typing to himself in chat
but after that there’s no need to interact with him anymore. Fl1pz was staying quiet and he could have chosen to just continue staying quiet or muted him with the Mute Button in game
I mean if you don’t feel bad for people losing their jobs you clearly haven’t seen what real society is like
I agree that tenten’s comments were wrong, but fl1pz handled the situation horribly and now tenten’s career is probably ruined - the drama is way too big to ignore for future orgs (no thanks to m1mosa the piece of shit)
I mean thats how fl1p is. Not just fl1p but obviously many ranked players will choose to talk shit back if they are said anything bad. Surely you dont expect every1 to stay quiet/mute?
Also idc bout mimosa too but is he the only Indian whos angry? If yes then yea your points are valid but he made comments to a group of people.
This is still nothing, imagine what couldve happened if it was a famous Chinese pro for example bcuz they dont stay quiet either
nd yes thx for pointing out bcuz I am a 40yr living off my parents money
pandoradox [#39]so he shouldve turned a blind eye to a racist so that we dont feel bad for a racist getting fired? If he cared so much for his career, maybe he should have basic human decency and not be racist.
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tenten only got “racist” after fl1pz talked shit back
so fl1pz could have not escalated the situation -
it’s not “turning a blind eye” if you prevent it from happening in the first place
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tenten also was retaliating to what fl1pz told him - 1)he was the one who started being toxic if you watch the clip 2) he told tenten to “go talk to your anime”
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honestly I don’t get why tenten is being called a racist - the comment “go wipe your poop with your hands” is offensive, but doesn’t call out any races
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and yes I feel bad for a “racist” who lost his job because a toxic streamer with an ego could not bring himself to shut up and mute another toxic teammate.
on a side note, tenten was understandably tilted, he’s literally carrying the team on his back and his botfrag Reyna is trying to put the blame on him
not saying that what tenten said was right, but fl1pz definitely has some fault here
bobkiller [#23]MUTE THE GUY IN GAME
THE FUNCTION EXISTS FOR A REASON
say that to tenten, fl1pz is silent and does nothing then out of nowhere tenten says "what do u want?"
JiangLi [#43]I mean thats how fl1p is. Not just fl1p but obviously many ranked players will choose to talk shit back if they are said anything bad. Surely you dont expect every1 to stay quiet/mute?
Also idc bout mimosa too but is he the only Indian whos angry? If yes then yea your points are valid but he made comments to a group of people.
This is still nothing, imagine what couldve happened if it was a famous Chinese pro for example bcuz they dont stay quiet either
nd yes thx for pointing out bcuz I am a 40yr living off my parents money
yes it’s what a lot of players WOULD do, but it’s not what people SHOULD do
also your point is valid for tenten too, I know for sure that alot of people would also say bad stuff in his position too
that’s why both sides are at fault here
bobkiller [#44]
tenten only got “racist” after fl1pz talked shit back
so fl1pz could have not escalated the situationit’s not “turning a blind eye” if you prevent it from happening in the first place
tenten also was retaliating to what fl1pz told him - 1)he was the one who started being toxic if you watch the clip 2) he told tenten to “go talk to your anime”
honestly I don’t get why tenten is being called a racist - the comment “go wipe your poop with your hands” is offensive, but doesn’t call out any races
and yes I feel bad for a “racist” who lost his job because a toxic streamer with an ego could not bring himself to shut up and mute another toxic teammate.
on a side note, tenten was understandably tilted, he’s literally carrying the team on his back and his botfrag Reyna is trying to put the blame on him
not saying that what tenten said was right, but fl1pz definitely has some fault here
tenten could've not bring a country into this and this wouldnt happen bro, being toxic in rank is normal even for pros just dont bring a race into it
- honestly I don’t get why tenten is being called a racist - the comment “go wipe your poop with your hands” is offensive, but doesn’t call out any races
he said fucking india or smth like that
Ronintai [#45]say that to tenten, fl1pz is silent and does nothing then out of nowhere tenten says "what do u want?"
and that’s where tenten is at fault
but fl1pz should mute him after that
tenten already looks like a clown
bobkiller [#44]
tenten only got “racist” after fl1pz talked shit back
so fl1pz could have not escalated the situationit’s not “turning a blind eye” if you prevent it from happening in the first place
tenten also was retaliating to what fl1pz told him - 1)he was the one who started being toxic if you watch the clip 2) he told tenten to “go talk to your anime”
honestly I don’t get why tenten is being called a racist - the comment “go wipe your poop with your hands” is offensive, but doesn’t call out any races
and yes I feel bad for a “racist” who lost his job because a toxic streamer with an ego could not bring himself to shut up and mute another toxic teammate.
on a side note, tenten was understandably tilted, he’s literally carrying the team on his back and his botfrag Reyna is trying to put the blame on him
not saying that what tenten said was right, but fl1pz definitely has some fault here
- Ok tell me how fl1p would have known that TenTen will get racist when he talked to him. And that is the most common rank behaviour to shit talk each other but how will fl1p get the idea that TenTen gna make racist comments.
- Do you know whats gna happen in the future? You are arguing w me rn, do you think im gna say smth racist ?
- This isnt the first time they met in ranked, obviously you seem unaware, bcuz they alr had exchanges about it in ranked before.
- bruhhh 😂😂 are you arguing in the air or do you have a grasp of the situation that happened? Talk to me when you get idea of the whole scenario, i aint wasting my time anymore
PokerFace [#14]The one who gaslight and instigate is mimosa, and you know what he always does that, if you see another drama related to indian mimosa will instigate it to another level
who even is this mimosa guy
bobkiller [#46]yes it’s what a lot of players WOULD do, but it’s not what people SHOULD do
also your point is valid for tenten too, I know for sure that alot of people would also say bad stuff in his position too
that’s why both sides are at fault here
what people should do and what people would do is going into psychological territory now
JiangLi [#49]
- Ok tell me how fl1p would have known that TenTen will get racist when he talked to him. And that is the most common rank behaviour to shit talk each other but how will fl1p get the idea that TenTen gna make racist comments.
- Do you know whats gna happen in the future? You are arguing w me rn, do you think im gna say smth racist ?
- This isnt the first time they met in ranked, obviously you seem unaware, bcuz they alr had exchanges about it in ranked before.
- bruhhh 😂😂 are you arguing in the air or do you have a grasp of the situation that happened? Talk to me when you get idea of the whole scenario, i aint wasting my time anymore
damn okay my fault boss
chill the fuck out
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that’s why he should mute him in advance: better to be safe than sorry
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I know you aren’t gonna say anything racist because we aren’t openly insulting each other or being toxic - but seems like you want that to change
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that’s doesn’t respond to what I said but okay
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my bad didn’t know India was a race but also I’m just saying stop branding him as a racist, it sounds worse and is just factually not true
bobkiller [#44]
tenten only got “racist” after fl1pz talked shit back
so fl1pz could have not escalated the situationit’s not “turning a blind eye” if you prevent it from happening in the first place
tenten also was retaliating to what fl1pz told him - 1)he was the one who started being toxic if you watch the clip 2) he told tenten to “go talk to your anime”
honestly I don’t get why tenten is being called a racist - the comment “go wipe your poop with your hands” is offensive, but doesn’t call out any races
and yes I feel bad for a “racist” who lost his job because a toxic streamer with an ego could not bring himself to shut up and mute another toxic teammate.
on a side note, tenten was understandably tilted, he’s literally carrying the team on his back and his botfrag Reyna is trying to put the blame on him
not saying that what tenten said was right, but fl1pz definitely has some fault here
This is what you imply:
- if someone talks shit to you, its alright if you get racist. Its on the person who talked shit that they provoked you and made you a racist fuck.
- It is on the other person to prevent someone else from insulting other races. I think his org did good then, give him no career so that he doesnt have people to talk and hence racism can be prevented now.
- If someone is toxic, instead of reporting/staying sane and doing literally anything positive, its alright to become racist
- so its alright for people to spew wrong stereotypes. Ig you are chinese, why dont you go do your math homework else your parents will kick you from their place?
5.we should feel bad for people who are racist as long as they are provoked by people we dont like.
If you're tilted, its alright to become racist.
You actually have no comprehension on why racism is wrong do you?
omoshiroioshirin [#41]bro if indian/indonesian player said "f**n japan" "you wash ur @ss with bidet, hiroshima, nagasaki", to a JP player, the next day, it would be the same thing.
why u putting the same comment everywhere
pandoradox [#53]This is what you imply:
- if someone talks shit to you, its alright if you get racist. Its on the person who talked shit that they provoked you and made you a racist fuck.
- It is on the other person to prevent someone else from insulting other races. I think his org did good then, give him no career so that he doesnt have people to talk and hence racism can be prevented now.
- If someone is toxic, instead of reporting/staying sane and doing literally anything positive, its alright to become racist
- so its alright for people to spew wrong stereotypes. Ig you are chinese, why dont you go do your math homework else your parents will kick you from their place?
5.we should feel bad for people who are racist as long as they are provoked by people we dont like.If you're tilted, its alright to become racist.
You actually have no comprehension on why racism is wrong do you?
here’s what I’ll say
1 and 2: fl1pz should not have escalated the situation, and it’s on fl1pz to stop arguing with a delusional clown in tenten
- I’m just saying that fl1pz is at fault. the same can be said for fl1pz here though, he could have stopped talking to tenten, but chose to trigger him even more
well I guess my main point here is:
just mute tenten
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I responded to that in my last post
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I guess that’s sort of what I mean but not really: I think we should feel bad for tenten because he got fired, not only because of his offensive remarks, but also fl1pz ego and his irresponsible method of handling the situation.
whatever maybe you think I support racism, or I have twisted morals and standards but to each their own
have a good night😊
bobkiller [#55]here’s what I’ll say
1 and 2: fl1pz should not have escalated the situation, and it’s on fl1pz to stop arguing with a delusional clown in tenten
- I’m just saying that fl1pz is at fault. the same can be said for fl1pz here though, he could have stopped talking to tenten, but chose to trigger him even more
well I guess my main point here is:
just mute tenten
I responded to that in my last post
I guess that’s sort of what I mean but not really: I think we should feel bad for tenten because he got fired, not only because of his offensive remarks, but also fl1pz ego and his irresponsible method of handling the situation.
whatever maybe you think I support racism, or I have twisted morals and standards but to each their own
have a good night😊
i dont think you have twisted morals or some shit like that, i think you are just very biased lol. its natural to talk back when someone is shitting on you, tenten just crossed the line bringing country/race into this
bobkiller [#55]here’s what I’ll say
1 and 2: fl1pz should not have escalated the situation, and it’s on fl1pz to stop arguing with a delusional clown in tenten
- I’m just saying that fl1pz is at fault. the same can be said for fl1pz here though, he could have stopped talking to tenten, but chose to trigger him even more
well I guess my main point here is:
just mute tenten
I responded to that in my last post
I guess that’s sort of what I mean but not really: I think we should feel bad for tenten because he got fired, not only because of his offensive remarks, but also fl1pz ego and his irresponsible method of handling the situation.
whatever maybe you think I support racism, or I have twisted morals and standards but to each their own
have a good night😊
I dont believe you are racist but do believe that you dont understand why racism is called out.
Youre arguement for someone being racist is, someone else provoked them to be racist. there are a million ways tenten couldve been toxic but CHOSE to be racist. blame fl1pz all you want, i'll agree but someone being racist isnt a reaction, its a reflection of true self.
also youre analogy of prevention can be extrapolated to dont show off your wealth if you dont wanna be robbed. the person who commits wrong is wrong dont blame it on how the person they wrong shouldve prevented it.
hungeryman [#38]The thing which made Indians angry was the fact that they get discriminated everytime. Have you seen the vct youtube chat. Indians get treated so badly. But they can’t do anything against the youtube comments now can they? But this time when they heard tenten doing this and they finally got a scapegoat. And all the discrimination that Indians faced was put to tenten.
I mean its not just YT comments theres a lot of players on SG server who will say it to your face has been happening since day1 valo came out
cocoluna [#30]TenTen is an idiot though. Why say that?
Tbh he's young and immature . Literally don't think he thought the consequences out.
OzyMeister [#58]I mean its not just YT comments theres a lot of players on SG server who will say it to your face has been happening since day1 valo came out
SG server is still better than Mumbai bro
onepiss69 [#60]SG server is still better than Mumbai bro
Mumbai is more toxic yes but less racist than SG
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