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EMEA-WIDE T2 LEAGUE

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xaboff

With the dropoff in EU VCLs' viewership, the gap between (some) leagues' best and worst teams, and the fact that EU countries/regions are obviously closer to each other, there's a necessity for a region-wide T2 league, while keeping VCLs as the 3rd division.

Here's my suggestion for how it could work.
16 teams, 2 splits with playoffs and an ascension playoff at the end, all except the Ascension playoff played online (sorry TR and MENA)

For 2024, it would be all the teams from Ascension (the 2 losers of the playin groups with better score would play a Bo1/Bo3 shootout match, with the winner making it in, and the loser would play a Bo5 decider against the other group loser.)

Both splits would have 2 single round robin groups, with an 8 team DE playoff, and both splits would award points.

Winners or both splits' playoffs would play the Ascension playoff, and the other 2 teams would be decided via the point rankings. (Not sure when that is, but at some point apparently 2 teams are supposed to be promoted from Ascension, so when that happens, the Ascension playoff, would expand from 4 to 6, 4 of the teams via point rankings.)

For the first split of each year, the worst 2 teams would play a Bo5 decider, the loser playing the Mid-Season Relegation along with 9 VCL winners, playing for one spot in Split 2.

For Split 2, the 3 worst teams from each group would go to Relegation, and the 5th placed teams would play a Bo5 decider, with the loser also playing Relegation. Joined by the 9 VCL winners, they would play for X spots for next year's Split 1.

(The number of spots would vary, for 2025, there would be 8 spots, for 2026 there would be teams returning from VCT, and then later when 2 teams start getting promoted, a different number of spots again.)

Alternatively, in Turkey and MENA could have their own leagues to avoid ping issues.

Thanks for your attention

#2
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blud wrote the fucking bible

#3
acels
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allat

#4
ortuh
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I think turkey is developed enough as a region to warrant its own league tbh, but yea I agree with you mostly

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xaboff
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ortuh [#4]

I think turkey is developed enough as a region to warrant its own league tbh, but yea I agree with you mostly

Sure, kinda like in 2021 and 2022

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emea´s the least watched region on both tier 1 and tier 2 how are they getting profit of that? remember riot cares more about viewership and sponsors than competitivity and letting tier 2 be sustainable, they rather get another lpl/lck "worlds" e-sport

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They need to merge. Only league that even has more than 2 good teams other than turkey is Vrl East surge. A bunch of talented players, few might join franchise soon in english teams like TH, Giants, Vitality.

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xaboff
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koromast [#6]

emea´s the least watched region on both tier 1 and tier 2 how are they getting profit of that? remember riot cares more about viewership and sponsors than competitivity and letting tier 2 be sustainable, they rather get another lpl/lck "worlds" e-sport

They'll get more viewership with a merged T2 league tho

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BoF7ooM [#7]

They need to merge. Only league that even has more than 2 good teams other than turkey is Vrl East surge. A bunch of talented players, few might join franchise soon in english teams like TH, Giants, Vitality.

That's what I'm saying

The disparity especially in NE is crazy. Apeks is the favorite to win all of Ascension, but all the other teams apart from Fokus are fucking dogshit... shit half of them disband every split

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xaboff [#8]

They'll get more viewership with a merged T2 league tho

might be true but depends on a lot of factors tbh and could close the tier 2 chances way more than they already are making it harder for teams to get promising players from tier 2 for franchised teams

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ascension is playing for 1 slot in league play no? i think there needs to be more threat on the league play spots and 2-4 need to get relegated into the ascension play to defend their spot in league play. maybe 6 challengers 2-4 relegated VCT teams. ascension is LAN so ping shouldn't matter. nobody really watches tier 2 playoffs unless content creators stream it so imho they should just play for circuit points in individual regions round robin style like they already have, just scrap the playoffs entirely. rito could also allocate some circuit points to 3rd party organizers to launch more interesting matchups where they can go thru an entire playoff bracket and rack up points

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[double post]

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bruhahaha [#11]

ascension is playing for 1 slot in league play no? i think there needs to be more threat on the league play spots and 2-4 need to get relegated into the ascension play to defend their spot in league play. maybe 6 challengers 2-4 relegated VCT teams. ascension is LAN so ping shouldn't matter. nobody really watches tier 2 playoffs unless content creators stream it so imho they should just play for circuit points in individual regions round robin style like they already have, just scrap the playoffs entirely. rito could also allocate some circuit points to 3rd party organizers to launch more interesting matchups where they can go thru an entire playoff bracket and rack up points

Well they will never put relegation to VCT since it's partner spots, and more people would definitely watch T2 playoffs if it wasn't Ramboot vs Zeta, but Apeks vs Acend.

Also ascension if for one spot yes, but apparently it's expaning to 2 in a couple of years

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