CS v VAL thread

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Faraday

I am not trying to start another cs v val thread I am just genuinely curious

I have 1k hours in cs but like most I am trash at the game and don't understand it enough at the highest level,
so if you don't understand the game that well then watching the esport is just team deathmatch

I'm good enough at val to understand the flow of the game and utility is easier to follow the significance then CS for noobs
for those that aren't global elite, why watch CS? I don't see anything except a frag compilation

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gotta agree with u on this one 🗿

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Well, CS is simpler in utility that's why it's easier to watch.

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Faraday

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Yeah but it's not fun to watch,
so a smoke goes down but if your not good enough to understand how that smoke changes the outcome of the round then it is meaningless
In val it is clear like if your breach stunned you can't win a gun fight for the next few seconds so it's more then just a team deathmatch

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smartest new zealander

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Faraday

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You have been downvoted for 'Rudeness towards other VLR users'
Please read my PSA on what this means for you.

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? If a smoke goes down in cs it’s like a smoke in val

If someone flashes you in cs it’s like a flash in val

If someone nades you in cs it’s damage

If someone molotovs in cs it’s like a molotov in val

What do you mean?

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luckily val doesn't only have smokes, flash, nade, and molies

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hekzy

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So it has more things? More things that you have to understand their influence on the round for?

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yea the logic isn't logicing on this one

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Faraday

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thing that are easier to see the impact for worse players,
If they get hit with a breach ult you can't take a fight for a certain amount of time
if a killjoy ult goes down you can't stay inside the area so you get site for free
if you have yoru ult your find out where the enemy is

The difference is Val has a lot of abilities that the outcome of the use of the ability is much more clear compared to csgo where the outcome of a the util is more subtle

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The outcome of the util is the exact same in cs vs val.

With the exception that valorant has much more util.

You’re not making any sense. In cs people need to understand 4 pieces of util that all are exactly the same. In valorant people need to understand 4 pieces of util multiplied by the number of agents to really know what’s going on.

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I'm not saying they understand how the util works is easier, I'm saying what it's effect on the state of the round is easier to understand?

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Braindead

How can you not understand the impact of cs util? It’s ez af

Here’s the impact and why even a random grandpa would understand:

-flash: you can’t see
-smoke: your vision is blocked
-grenade: you do instant damage
-molotov: you stand in fire, it hurts

Effect on the round:
-flash: somebody peeks flashed person, they likely kill them
-smoke: they can’t see you pass, you likely can cros
-grenade: do damage so easier to kill or outright kill
-molotov: deny space and do damage. Easier to kill or outright kill

4 util in a match of cs. In valorant at THE VERY LEAST 20 pieces of distinct util per game, maximum 40. Literally up to 10x more util complexity

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oops wrong thread IGNORE

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your mom clears