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ZeRUSia [#2]rly? where can i see the stats?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1191/champions-tour-2023-pacific-league
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ZeRUSia [#2]rly? where can i see the stats?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1191/champions-tour-2023-pacific-league
Mortadelo [#6]Well 14/56 is worse than 8/26 imo
wha? surely winning more clutches is better than having a higher clutch winrate.
That's like saying a dude who won 1 of 2 clutches is better (at clutching) than a dude who won 13/30
archetype [#7]wha? surely winning more clutches is better than having a higher clutch winrate.
That's like saying a dude who won 1 of 2 clutches is better (at clutching) than a dude who won 13/30
Um no? If you are left in a 1000 clutch situation and you win a 100 is much worse than if you are left in a 100 clutch situations and you win 50????
Rb has 6 more clutches in 30 more games than something how tf is that more impressive
Mortadelo [#10]Um no? If you are left in a 1000 clutch situation and you win a 100 is much worse than if you are left in a 100 clutch situations and you win 50????
Rb has 6 more clutches in 30 more games than something how tf is that more impressive
In terms of tangible impact surely it's better to have more actual clutches won than to simply have a higher clutch rate though? In general? I guess some adjustments can be made to that school of thought though.
Also it's 30 more rounds, not games.
archetype [#13]In terms of tangible impact surely it's better to have more actual clutches won than to simply have a higher clutch rate though? In general? I guess some adjustments can be made to that school of thought though.
Also it's 30 more rounds, not games.
I understand your point if it's as you said and you have a very low sample of clutches. But it's not the case here
Mortadelo [#14]I understand your point if it's as you said and you have a very low sample of clutches. But it's not the case here
I mean I also see yours, I was moreso just commenting on what I presumed was your philosophy behind it.
You could argue that those rounds Rb clutched could have led to more wins though, I guess there's also an argument that something had less clutches because he was given less opportunities. Guess there's not gonna be a definitive answer unless someone goes through every single clutch, clutch attempt, and outcome.
archetype [#15]I mean I also see yours, I was moreso just commenting on what I presumed was your philosophy behind it.
You could argue that those rounds Rb clutched could have led to more wins though, I guess there's also an argument that something had less clutches because he was given less opportunities. Guess there's not gonna be a definitive answer unless someone goes through every single clutch, clutch attempt, and outcome.
Fair enough. I guess there is a balance in between
6vine [#8]??? He’s a duelist bro 💀
And what's that supposed to mean? He gets put into less clutch situations that's why it's impressive that he still wins them
Mortadelo [#11]And what's that supposed to mean? He gets put into less clutch situations that's why it's impressive that he still wins them
You can’t be serious 💀
A smoker/sentinel is waay more likely to end up in a 1vX un-winabble situation than a duelist which increases the total number of rounds.
6vine [#18]You can’t be serious 💀
A smoker/sentinel is waay more likely to end up in a 1vX un-winabble situation than a duelist which increases the total number of rounds.
As I said, more precisely Rb has been put in a clutch situation 30 more times than something has. Yet he has managed to win 6 more clutches than something. So that's 6 more clutches in 30 more games
And about the unwindable situations that's simply not true. I said wtf something precisely because he is a duelist. Most of clutch rate leaderboards are led by Initiators and smokers, not duelists. Derke literally has 0% clutch rate this split
Mortadelo [#20]As I said, more precisely Rb has been put in a clutch situation 30 more times than something has. Yet he has managed to win 6 more clutches than something. So that's 6 more clutches in 30 more games
And about the unwindable situations that's simply not true. I said wtf something precisely because he is a duelist. Most of clutch rate leaderboards are led by Initiators and smokers, not duelists. Derke literally has 0% clutch rate this split
PRX has 3 entry fraggers. Fnatic has 1. Does that explain it?
6vine [#21]PRX has 3 entry fraggers. Fnatic has 1. Does that explain it?
He has been put into 5 clutch situations this map, 3/5 have been 1 vs 3 or more. Does that explain why your point doesn't make any sense
Mortadelo [#22]He has been put into 5 clutch situations this map, 3/5 have been 1 vs 3 or more. Does that explain why your point doesn't make any sense
Bro’s taking 1 map into consideration. You are actually so dumb if you don’t realize a duelist is waay less likely to be in a clutch situation than a sentinel/smoker
6vine [#23]Bro’s taking 1 map into consideration. You are actually so dumb if you don’t realize a duelist is waay less likely to be in a clutch situation than a sentinel/smoker
Dude when have I said a duelist is not less likely to end up in a clutch situation? My literal point is that something has more clutches than anyone else with half the clutch situations.
What I was arguing with you here is when you said he gets put into less impossible clutch situations. You literally forget he plays in PRX where everyone can die and be left alone at any moment
6vine [#8]??? He’s a duelist bro 💀
??? They're both duelist bro 💀
Edit: my fault bro, i though it was between two duelists. But you claiming that something's a duelist proves Mortadelo's point that something's clutch efficiency in every clutch situation is better than rb's number of clutches given that, as you said, smething's a duelist and is not likely to have clutches.
Khuletz [#25]??? They're both duelist bro 💀
Edit: my fault bro, i though it was between two duelists. But you claiming that something's a duelist proves Mortadelo's point that something's clutch efficiency in every clutch situation is better than rb's number of clutches given that, as you said, smething's a duelist and is not likely to have clutches.
Didn’t know rb was a duelist. Thanks for letting me know you fucking moron
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