how is this fair? its cool that riot is helping out a small and new region but what about other ones?
small region OCE has been around for a long time but constantly neglected. why can't we get free slots to masters? and how come edg and ase get to cheat the system and automatically qual before split 2 even starts?
its because riot is scared that WBG and RNG are going to qualify, and riot can't have OCE players having any success.
unfair, common riot L.
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Typer [#12]Same for MENA
yeah. two sad and dead regions. my brother kugio deserves to make it out just as much as my oce brothers.
Luck_ [#14]yeah. two sad and dead regions. my brother kugio deserves to make it out just as much as my oce brothers.
What about the viewership in oce? I think they care a lot for Viewership
gonfreacks [#15]China >>> OCE on the money, talent, viewership
money and viewership yes, but talent we dont even know because we never get a chance. we are getting ripped off, now we must come from the bottom.
Typer [#16]What about the viewership in oce? I think they care a lot for Viewership
fucking nothing. the chat is barely active, mostly other players, staff of orgs and teams and some normal viewers. we rarely reach 1k viewers on lpl channel on twitch
thatpower [#20]its money. obviously its unfair but riot would be stupid not to dickride the cn region
fair enough. 😭
Luck_ [#19]fucking nothing. the chat is barely active, mostly other players, staff of orgs and teams and some normal viewers. we rarely reach 1k viewers on lpl channel on twitch
What popular in oce? Like what they do play most ? Cs?
Typer [#22]What popular in oce? Like what they do play most ? Cs?
cs is porbably most successful. grayhound is a solid team on their way to the major. they aren't top tier but i do believe they are a decent team.
Luck_ [#18]money and viewership yes, but talent we dont even know because we never get a chance. we are getting ripped off, now we must come from the bottom.
I've watched APAC quite a lot. But I never impress with OCE every time they performed in Challenger or LCQ (Order or Bonkers). Individually, I only knew Rdeew and Wronski since sometimes they make a really good play. While China, when they have a chance, they destroyed LCQ East Asia (which in general is better than APAC)....
gonfreacks [#25]I've watched APAC quite a lot. But I never impress with OCE every time they performed in Challenger or LCQ (Order or Bonkers). Individually, I only knew Rdeew and Wronski since sometimes they make a really good play. While China, when they have a chance, they destroyed LCQ East Asia (which in general is better than APAC)....
What blud waffling "east asia is generally better than apac" 😆 ..
If you put 1 apac(SEA) ascension team on East asia LCQ, they could easily dominate them bots
Blanc_cataloq [#30]What blud waffling "east asia is generally better than apac" 😆 ..
If you put 1 apac(SEA) ascension team on East asia LCQ, they could easily dominate them bots
Nah...you are just delusional lil bro...
AzShun [#31]No money, no good team, no good player, nothing. Why do you think riot gonna give you slot to master like they do to China?
no money yes but good players and teams we fucking have. i understand money and viewership is shit but if we were given the same opportunities as other teams have, for example we don't have big orgs in the valorant scene (riot's fault there isnt) which means small/growing orgs like 95x and nerdpunt have to take over. 95x were able to provide a bootcamp in split one so they can scrim sea teams and that was great. but apart from that there hasnt been the same amount of support for our teams as other regions, its gonna take a while for the orgs to grow big enough to do more. we have lots of indivisual talent trapped here and nobody to give a chance. lets take some examples, although they arent the best, tixx and autumn wrecked tier 2 india in split 1. maple and pl1xx could hold their own against the best in china, swer and signed are having a rough strat but their stats are improving every day, wronski also is having a rough start but he has what it takes.
we have teams like 95x and nerdpunt and funcrew who are all capable of doing a lot of damage through individual skill, good strat calling and counter strats and more. we really do have what it takes if given a chance, i am positive. sadly we wont but i know we are capable of starting from the bottom and rising to the top.
Luck_ [#18]money and viewership yes, but talent we dont even know because we never get a chance. we are getting ripped off, now we must come from the bottom.
OCE has been bad every single time they've faced SEA teams
Scar98 [#36]OCE has been bad every single time they've faced SEA teams
they havent. they havent been amazing but not bad bro.
soraol [#40]oce even has less ratings than Thailand.
Why are you comparing with China？
It's your region's own reason.
no lmao
first thai is good af mith is a top 3 ascension team
and how tf do you know more than me? i watch every game and know everything and i know that we are good enough to hold our own with the ret of the world
Luck_ [#44]quality > quantity 😼
Chinese teams are better then oce teams no need to lie
China quality and quantity > oce quality🤡
Luck_ [#43]no lmao
first thai is good af mith is a top 3 ascension team
and how tf do you know more than me? i watch every game and know everything and i know that we are good enough to hold our own with the ret of the world
It is enough.I said Thailand was just one example.
You whine like a whining bitch.
soraol [#51]It is enough.I said Thailand was just one example.
You whine like a whining bitch.
not whining hahahhahahaha
just stating facts
rito racist to oceanians like us
i will not stand for this!!! #OCELIVESMATTER
tbh china is better than OCE, even if we get 5 best OCE players, they would probably lose to kru
BUT
2 free chinese slots to master is wild
literally bro
both chinese teams got first rounded in lock-in ("BUT EDG ALMOST BEAT 100T!!!!" who cares they still lost)
at least one lost after a close game, so we should have 1 at max
Faraday [#50]Luck_ we need a bigger population
and that starts with you
start making babies to out populate china
sounds like a plan
will you be the sage to my jett so we can get started 😼
gr1ef [#56]it's because majority of shares are owned by Tencent ( Chinese gaming company which owns many other companies like Supercell etc and games like PUBG Mobile) so ig there has been some pressure from them. idk just guessing
sadge...
Luck_ [#52]not whining hahahhahahaha
just stating facts
rito racist to oceanians like us
i will not stand for this!!! #OCELIVESMATTER
I think future Riot might support your region once they make a lot of money.
But there is a reason is most Australians are not interested in video games.
Have a lot of forests and a lot of animals. People prefer to go out in nature, feel the air rather than stay at home and play video games.
Luck_ [#23]cs is porbably most successful. grayhound is a solid team on their way to the major. they aren't top tier but i do believe they are a decent team.
respect jks
ortuh [#65]Population of Oceania: 44 mil
Population of China: 1.4 billion
even if u remove 1 billion china will still have 10X population of oce . oce better start dropping 100 babies
Warlordwibz [#32]From Riot to OCE: Get Ready To Learn Chinese Buddy
Already learning, ask maple and pl1xx
Chow1E [#61]China also have clout ZmjjKK and Life
No one knows whornski if he didnt qualify apac challlengers last year
he did but ok
ortuh [#65]Population of Oceania: 44 mil
Population of China: 1.4 billion
wait we have 44mil
sheesh i thought we still had about 25 wtf
soraol [#58]I think future Riot might support your region once they make a lot of money.
But there is a reason is most Australians are not interested in video games.
Have a lot of forests and a lot of animals. People prefer to go out in nature, feel the air rather than stay at home and play video games.
first line yeah but the rest is bullshit lmao
you sound like you have no idea what australia is like
Typer [#16]What about the viewership in oce? I think they care a lot for Viewership
update on viewership: banger match, best two teams imo, only two orgs in the scene.
333 viewers
Blanc_cataloq [#30]What blud waffling "east asia is generally better than apac" 😆 ..
If you put 1 apac(SEA) ascension team on East asia LCQ, they could easily dominate them bots
LMAOOO yall see how delusional these sea bots can get 😂😂
Luck_ [#44]quality > quantity 😼
5 largest cities in CHina will provide the 10x more revenue for Riot than all of OCE combined, the Chinese are notorious videogames whales, they would buy everything, you can see in csgo and DotA most top inventories are Chinese and sometimes Arab.
Tbh since last lock in tournamen i dont understand why their region get direct invitiation to the big competition,
Not 1 slot but 2. I feel like because they missed out on franchise because of game release problem or something, they should get the same treatment as a lot of region that didnt get any franchise representation. They should play in challengers and fighting for ascension like many other teams. Or atleast if riot really wants a representation from china, they should make a tournament similar to lcq but with other unfranchised teams, perhaps the one who won the ascension got to play in champions? This way i think its more fair
Having them under Challenger will basically killed the game. They had to start big and separate to the scene right away
Remember that the game they have to beat, is not CS but Crossfire
having China to start in a small Challenger for without clear path vs a Complete National-level ecosystem (wrapped under a $1M franchising league) that CS has failed to matched local viewership against CF [and yes there is more people watching Comp CF than Comp CS in China], will spoke GG for VAL in China before it even began.
In a simpler explanation: Tencent and that's all the reason
Have you seen any Tencent-owned scene that China was small, none. Even the lowest (Clash series of mobile games) they still has it as separate spot
Have no guaranteed spots for them competitive = might just better skipping China market or see how Asian CS looks like atm.
horse69 [#54]tbh china is better than OCE, even if we get 5 best OCE players, they would probably lose to kru
BUT
2 free chinese slots to master is wild
literally bro
both chinese teams got first rounded in lock-in ("BUT EDG ALMOST BEAT 100T!!!!" who cares they still lost)
at least one lost after a close game, so we should have 1 at max
so we should stop dickriding drx pl1xx left OCE for a reason
Blanc_cataloq [#30]What blud waffling "east asia is generally better than apac" 😆 ..
If you put 1 apac(SEA) ascension team on East asia LCQ, they could easily dominate them bots
EA lcq had CR and ONS
if you put 1kr(EA) ascension team in SEA ascension they could dominate them bots
hesketh2 [#78]Having them under Challenger will basically killed the game. They had to start big and separate to the scene right away
Remember that the game they have to beat, is not CS but Crossfire
having China to start in a small Challenger for without clear path vs a Complete National-level ecosystem (wrapped under a $1M franchising league) that CS has failed to matched local viewership against CF [and yes there is more people watching Comp CF than Comp CS in China], will spoke GG for VAL in China before it even began.
In a simpler explanation: Tencent and that's all the reason
Have you seen any Tencent-owned scene that China was small, none. Even the lowest (Clash series of mobile games) they still has it as separate spot
Have no guaranteed spots for them competitive = might just better skipping China market or see how Asian CS looks like atm.
No replies after this I guess I was right.
number1horse69hater [#79]so we should stop dickriding drx pl1xx left OCE for a reason
who are you lmao im not even relevant on this site
Happyguy [#45]But in terms of talent, you lost in both quality and quantity 😭😭😭
why would i listen to an indo lmao
what do you know
kekw
soraol [#58]I think future Riot might support your region once they make a lot of money.
But there is a reason is most Australians are not interested in video games.
Have a lot of forests and a lot of animals. People prefer to go out in nature, feel the air rather than stay at home and play video games.
speaking out of the arse 💀😂 many Australians play valorant it's just eSports scene is not popular
Luck_ [#72]first line yeah but the rest is bullshit lmao
you sound like you have no idea what australia is like
bro I was shocked like wtf did I just read 😂😂😂
FightWasTaken [#86]bro I was shocked like wtf did I just read 😂😂😂
ikr lmao
fucking braindead
he is upfragging himself as well 😹😹😹
funny_prank [#88]xeno much
yeah thats funny
you guys are allowed to talk shit ALL YOU WANT to aussies but its ABSOULTELY NOT OKAY ITS XENO to do the same to indos????
funny bunch
so soft
Luck_ [#89]yeah thats funny
you guys are allowed to talk shit ALL YOU WANT to aussies but its ABSOULTELY NOT OKAY ITS XENO to do the same to indos????
funny bunch
so soft
bros pressed abt the scenario in his head 💀
funny_prank [#90]bros pressed abt the scenario in his head 💀
average american, probably shot on the brain in an english class when learning to read 😹😹😹😹
Luck_ [#91]average american, probably shot on the brain in an english class when learning to read 😹😹😹😹
sorry i didn't know you liked to make fun of kids getting shot but you do you
Luck_ [#91]average american, probably shot on the brain in an english class when learning to read 😹😹😹😹
pathetic people, he thinks he was funny @MODS ban this guy
funny_prank [#92]sorry i didn't know you liked to make fun of kids getting shot but you do you
no lol. just saying you cant read in american style
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